Pruitt better have some skills

[CelticsWhat35]

theres a high chance that the celtics will be another miami, which is 1 and done.

i was not aware we have a franchise center who will eat himself up to 300 pounds

You're being kind.  Shaq wishes we was only 300 lbs.  If he were, he probably never would've been traded, and if he was, Phoenix wouldn't have gotten bounced in the 1st round.

[guava_wrench]

Err they can't afford to pay House any more than that if they want to sign Posey.  The problem is that Posey wants more money.  What you giveth to Posey you must taketh away from House.  It's that SIMPLE.

not true, the LLE and bird contracts have zero to do with posey.

Ainge clearly wants to get the most bang for his buck, which means signing players at min to get league subsidy. This isn't complicated. This also isn't that big of a deal.

I do not buy that House is so irreplaceable. As much as he contributed during the season, there are bound to be other players that can also fit in well with our team while also working financially.

You do not necessarily need to throw money around to win championships.

[indeedproceed]

Err they can't afford to pay House any more than that if they want to sign Posey.  The problem is that Posey wants more money.  What you giveth to Posey you must taketh away from House.  It's that SIMPLE.

not true, the LLE and bird contracts have zero to do with posey.

Ainge clearly wants to get the most bang for his buck, which means signing players at min to get league subsidy. This isn't complicated. This also isn't that big of a deal.

I do not buy that House is so irreplaceable. As much as he contributed during the season, there are bound to be other players that can also fit in well with our team while also working financially.

You do not necessarily need to throw money around to win championships.

Ever seen the W/L records of teams with house on them, than the records the year after he leaves? A human rabbits foot is a silly idea...but if it quacks like a duck and looks like a duck..

[CelticsWhat35]

Ever seen the W/L records of teams with house on them, than the records the year after he leaves? A human rabbits foot is a silly idea...but if it quacks like a duck and looks like a duck..

Not sure I follow.  I was just checking those stats because I was interested in what it came out to, but it seems to me that out of all the teams he's played on, the year after he left only the Kings and Nets decreased their win total.  And both cases could be explained in other ways than just House leaving.  The Kings traded Webber midway through the 04-05 season, and the Nets had injuries and were just waiting for Kidd to get traded last year.

I'm not bashing House.  I like him and would like to see him come back.  I just expected to see some eye-popping numbers from those records.  Maybe I misunderstood your comment.

[indeedproceed]

Ever seen the W/L records of teams with house on them, than the records the year after he leaves? A human rabbits foot is a silly idea...but if it quacks like a duck and looks like a duck..

Not sure I follow.  I was just checking those stats because I was interested in what it came out to, but it seems to me that out of all the teams he's played on, the year after he left only the Kings and Nets decreased their win total.  And both cases could be explained in other ways than just House leaving.  The Kings traded Webber midway through the 04-05 season, and the Nets had injuries and were just waiting for Kidd to get traded last year.

I'm not bashing House.  I like him and would like to see him come back.  I just expected to see some eye-popping numbers from those records.  Maybe I misunderstood your comment.

Also Phoenix. They got to the WCF in 06, havent been back

lol but you're right. I thought of NJ and PHO and just kinda threw that out there, thinking I'd seen a chart or something before..must not have been eddie house.

Let my rephrase.."Have you guys ever seen the win-loss records of teams featuring eddie house to those same teams a year later, but only starting in the 2004/2005 season continuing until present day? They do marginally worse! Almost certainly not just because of him!"

But still he's our rabbit foot.

[ForexPirate]

Let's move on to plan B Danny.

Bring in Miles, if House won't take your offer, Cassell will.  Use Cassell only if Pruitt is not ready (we need to develop him).  Use Cassel in coaching capacity.  Bring back Tony Allen.  Take a flier on Livingston as well.  Leave a spot open for PJ.

Tony Allen is the wild card if he can come back and be the player that he was then he can replace a lot of what Posey gave us.

We have two teams here.  The team of now and the team of the future.  We can win now while developing the team of the future.  That is why I say to Danny move on and grab some more low risk, high reward gambles like he is so good at.

Perk   POB
Garnet  Powe  BBD
Pierce   Miles  Walker
Ray Allen,  Tony Allen, Giddens
Rondo, Pruitt, Cassell and Livingston

[Michael Anthony]

theres a high chance that the celtics will be another miami, which is 1 and done.

i was not aware we have a franchise center who will eat himself up to 300 pounds and a fragile gaurd who plans to hurt himself badly for the next 2 years.

To be another miami we'd have to be utterly terrable for the next 2 years, like, 35 wins bad. pardon me if i laugh out loud at this setiment.

Not winning another title, if that happenes, won't make us miami, it will make us 80% of all NBA teams that win a title. To be miami you'd have to go from best to utter, utter trash, in one year.

Glen Davis?

[ManUp]

And its not just Lue.  There are still a good number of other options out there, whether it is Cassell, Williams, Dooling, Arroyo, or even Dickau (remember, House was known as a defensive sieve before last year as well).

If the C's are throwing O'bryant out there as their backup big and Dan "Couldn't even guard yet assembled IKEA furniture three years ago, I can only imagine how bad he is now" Dickau as their backup pg then they will not be repeating. GPA will have wasted a yr and be a yr older and we will have squandered something good. Trying to save a million or so on the backup pg position is like buying a Porsche, but asking if you can get a discount if you get hubcaps instead of rims. Eddie House doesn't want the bank. He just wants two years. it's not a big risk. Just pay him. I don't know how anyone who watched Eddie for 100 games or so could think he's so replaceable, just to possibly save a million. And I'm pretty sure his son ball boys for free, so we save there

How is house irreplaceable? I'm not buying the chemistry thing because chemistry hasn't really been an issue with the team since Doc has been here. When he's out there we lose 5 secs off the shot clock trying to get into our sets, and we rely on PP and Ray to do the dribbling and play making. Other than catch and shoot what does house do that makes him so irreplaceable?

Someone please tell me when undersized shooting guards who aren't fast and can't dribble became such a hot commodity in the nba. House is a rich man's allan ray. Yes we won with him, but don't overrate him because of that.