Scarier Heat addition Jrue or Dame

[gouki88]

Jrue's 3 playoff runs in MIL had good per game averages of 18ppg 8apg 6rpg but on terrible efficiency at only 40% FG% 30% 3PT% 47.6% TS%.

His effectiveness / efficiency is woeful when it comes to big games in the playoffs. He has some stellar regular season numbers in games that don't matter but struggles mightly when the games that do matter come around.

His impact in the post-season is not what is expected of an elite guard. It is closer to what is expected of a guard like Derrick White or Marcus Smart.

Unlike Lillard, who is all sunshine and roses come playoff time? I am a big fan of both, but you’re cherry picking now & not really giving substance to your claims beyond basic shooting efficiency as the be-all determinant of postseason impact.

[Who]

Jrue's 3 playoff runs in MIL had good per game averages of 18ppg 8apg 6rpg but on terrible efficiency at only 40% FG% 30% 3PT% 47.6% TS%.

His effectiveness / efficiency is woeful when it comes to big games in the playoffs. He has some stellar regular season numbers in games that don't matter but struggles mightly when the games that do matter come around.

His impact in the post-season is not what is expected of an elite guard. It is closer to what is expected of a guard like Derrick White or Marcus Smart.

Unlike Lillard, who is all sunshine and roses come playoff time? I am a big fan of both, but you’re cherry picking now & not really giving substance to your claims beyond basic shooting efficiency as the be-all determinant of postseason impact.

Shooting numbers are a big deal for a scoring PG who takes 17.7 FGAs per game in the playoffs. His scoring efficiency isn't just bad. It is horrific.

He doesn't even get to the FT line to help make up for his bad shooting from the floor. Only 2.5 FTs relative to 17.7 FGs. A FTr of 14%. Which is what gives him such a horrid TS%.

[Who]

Smart last 3 years in the playoffs = 15.5ppg 43% FG% 36% 3PT% 56.2% TS%.

Again, to repeat Jrue's #s = 18ppg at 40% FG% 30% 3PT% 47.6% TS%.

D White has had two years in BOS playoffs = one good shooting, one bad shooting, overall = 11ppg 27mpg 43.6% 39.4% TS% 58.9%.

White's bad shooting year (36% FG% 31% 3PT%) still had a TS% of 49.4% compared to Jrue's 47.6%. That is how bad Jrue's shooting has been for 3 years now in the postseason.

[KG Living Legend]

Smart last 3 years in the playoffs = 15.5ppg 43% FG% 36% 3PT% 56.2% TS%.

Again, to repeat Jrue's #s = 18ppg at 40% FG% 30% 3PT% 47.6% TS%.

D White has had two years in BOS playoffs = one good shooting, one bad shooting, overall = 11ppg 27mpg 43.6% 39.4% TS% 58.9%.

White's bad shooting year (36% FG% 31% 3PT%) still had a TS% of 49.4% compared to Jrue's 47.6%. That is how bad Jrue's shooting has been for 3 years now in the postseason.

 That is a fair point and a big reason why the Bucks make this risky trade. Just watched a video on how teams were cheating off Jrue and begging him to shoot three's.

 
 Don't think it's worth it for the Celtics to trade for Jrue because it's gonna take Brogdon plus Horford or Rob. On paper it looks like a great Smart replacement,  but don't want to sacrifice our Big man depth.

[gouki88]

Smart last 3 years in the playoffs = 15.5ppg 43% FG% 36% 3PT% 56.2% TS%.

Again, to repeat Jrue's #s = 18ppg at 40% FG% 30% 3PT% 47.6% TS%.

D White has had two years in BOS playoffs = one good shooting, one bad shooting, overall = 11ppg 27mpg 43.6% 39.4% TS% 58.9%.

White's bad shooting year (36% FG% 31% 3PT%) still had a TS% of 49.4% compared to Jrue's 47.6%. That is how bad Jrue's shooting has been for 3 years now in the postseason.

So Jrue is only superior at scoring, passing, defence and rebounding, but comparable on efficiency?

[LilRip]

Jrue's 3 playoff runs in MIL had good per game averages of 18ppg 8apg 6rpg but on terrible efficiency at only 40% FG% 30% 3PT% 47.6% TS%.

His effectiveness / efficiency is woeful when it comes to big games in the playoffs. He has some stellar regular season numbers in games that don't matter but struggles mightly when the games that do matter come around.

His impact in the post-season is not what is expected of an elite guard. It is closer to what is expected of a guard like Derrick White or Marcus Smart.

 And he changes the game defensively.  Who's guarding Tatum and Brown now??? In the past it was Wes Mathews and Holiday.  Who's guarding the best tandem of wings in all of basketball?

 Pat Connington? Who else do they even have. Giannis wasn't covering the Jay's hardly at all last year if memory serves. The Bucks are finished IMO.

This is the silver lining. I think JB, in particular, struggles against the savvy defense of Jrue. I hope someone can verify this with stats but idk why that’s what’s in my head

Anyway, Bucks aren’t going to defend the Jays as well anymore but onthe flip side, Dame has always been a tough cover for us. Here’s to hoping his shooting drops off a cliff when these 2 teams inevitably meet in the postseason

[celticinorlando]

My Heat friends have told me they want no part of Holiday. It was Dame or bust.

Cannot see the Heat offering what they did for Dame to get Holiday. I think Holiday ends up with the Clippers or Sixers.

[PAOBoston]

Jrue would fit the grinder culture in Miami but not sure how he fixes their offensive issues tbh.