Celtics (35-26) at Pistons (14-45) Game #62 2/26/22

[liam]

Late to the party, will just catch the game on replay. I wonder why Ime isn’t playing Theis. We need to keep big Al fresh. It’s nice to see PP have a real solid game too.

Would love to see Ime sit Al tomorrow and give Theis some serious PT.

At least play Al short minutes... He went 37 today.

[slamtheking]

missed most of the game -- caught the 4th quarter on the bar TV during lunch.  noticed no Timelord or White during the 4th quarter.  can someone provide an explanation why they weren't in the game ahead of Pritchard?

Payton was playing arguably his best game of the season and White was having a bad game.  Not sure about Rob.  Al and Grant were both having good games.  Someone had to sit.

TP for the update.

seems White is still not justifying what we gave up to get him.

This was his only disappointing game so far.

Still don’t understand the disappointment around the White trade. We’ve played incredibly well with him in this short span so far.

I agree -- White adds more to the team than JR or DS and I'm glad for the trade.

my issue with the White trade is the serious overpayment made to get him.   if he isn't providing what JRich, Romeo and the player we would have taken in this year's draft would have been providing this year and going forward, it was a bad trade.  so far, he hasn't provided that.  He's a better ball handler and passer but his scoring is not what JRich provided and he cannot provide solid defense on 2 players at the same time as JRich and Romeo could. 

From what I've seen, he's a decent bench player to have but not for what we gave up.

[Surferdad]

missed most of the game -- caught the 4th quarter on the bar TV during lunch.  noticed no Timelord or White during the 4th quarter.  can someone provide an explanation why they weren't in the game ahead of Pritchard?

Payton was playing arguably his best game of the season and White was having a bad game.  Not sure about Rob.  Al and Grant were both having good games.  Someone had to sit.

TP for the update.

seems White is still not justifying what we gave up to get him.

This was his only disappointing game so far.

Still don’t understand the disappointment around the White trade. We’ve played incredibly well with him in this short span so far.

I agree -- White adds more to the team than JR or DS and I'm glad for the trade.

my issue with the White trade is the serious overpayment made to get him.   if he isn't providing what JRich, Romeo and the player we would have taken in this year's draft would have been providing this year and going forward, it was a bad trade.  so far, he hasn't provided that.  He's a better ball handler and passer but his scoring is not what JRich provided and he cannot provide solid defense on 2 players at the same time as JRich and Romeo could. 

From what I've seen, he's a decent bench player to have but not for what we gave up.

Over-reaction to White's one bad game, and I think said you didn't watch it.

[nickagneta]

missed most of the game -- caught the 4th quarter on the bar TV during lunch.  noticed no Timelord or White during the 4th quarter.  can someone provide an explanation why they weren't in the game ahead of Pritchard?

Payton was playing arguably his best game of the season and White was having a bad game.  Not sure about Rob.  Al and Grant were both having good games.  Someone had to sit.

TP for the update.

seems White is still not justifying what we gave up to get him.

This was his only disappointing game so far.

Still don’t understand the disappointment around the White trade. We’ve played incredibly well with him in this short span so far.

I agree -- White adds more to the team than JR or DS and I'm glad for the trade.

my issue with the White trade is the serious overpayment made to get him.   if he isn't providing what JRich, Romeo and the player we would have taken in this year's draft would have been providing this year and going forward, it was a bad trade.  so far, he hasn't provided that.  He's a better ball handler and passer but his scoring is not what JRich provided and he cannot provide solid defense on 2 players at the same time as JRich and Romeo could. 

From what I've seen, he's a decent bench player to have but not for what we gave up.

Not sure I see a serious overpayment for White. There were a bunch of trades this trade season moving picks and players for a player.

Harden cost Simmons, Curry, Drummond and 2 1sts.

Toronto had to move Goran Dragic and a 1st for Thad Young.

Detroit moved Josh Jackson, Trey Lyles and 2 2nds for Marvin Bagley

LeVert cost the Cavs a 1st and 2nds

Pellies paid a 1st, 2 2nds and two good players for McCollum and Nance

The Knicks paid a 1st for Can Reddish

The going price to acquire talent seemed to be right in line with what Brad paid for White on a bargain deal that's 3 years long.

[td450]

missed most of the game -- caught the 4th quarter on the bar TV during lunch.  noticed no Timelord or White during the 4th quarter.  can someone provide an explanation why they weren't in the game ahead of Pritchard?

Payton was playing arguably his best game of the season and White was having a bad game.  Not sure about Rob.  Al and Grant were both having good games.  Someone had to sit.

TP for the update.

seems White is still not justifying what we gave up to get him.

This was his only disappointing game so far.

Still don’t understand the disappointment around the White trade. We’ve played incredibly well with him in this short span so far.

I agree -- White adds more to the team than JR or DS and I'm glad for the trade.

my issue with the White trade is the serious overpayment made to get him.   if he isn't providing what JRich, Romeo and the player we would have taken in this year's draft would have been providing this year and going forward, it was a bad trade.  so far, he hasn't provided that.  He's a better ball handler and passer but his scoring is not what JRich provided and he cannot provide solid defense on 2 players at the same time as JRich and Romeo could. 

From what I've seen, he's a decent bench player to have but not for what we gave up.

If you just look at the individual output of the players, that would lead you to your point of view

I prefer to look at how it affects the play of the team. Adding White means improvement of ball flow and decision making, which this team desperately needed.

Most importantly, we had the core of something special all along when all our starters were playing, but it rapidly deteriorated when we went to our bench. Richardson was a plus defender, but the tight team concept we had with the starters just didn't hold up when he came in, whether you can blame him for that or not. White allows us to keep that going when Smart goes to the bench.

So the differences between the two can seem trivial as individuals, but the team impact is much more significant.

[tonydelk]

missed most of the game -- caught the 4th quarter on the bar TV during lunch.  noticed no Timelord or White during the 4th quarter.  can someone provide an explanation why they weren't in the game ahead of Pritchard?

Payton was playing arguably his best game of the season and White was having a bad game.  Not sure about Rob.  Al and Grant were both having good games.  Someone had to sit.

TP for the update.

seems White is still not justifying what we gave up to get him.

This was his only disappointing game so far.

Still don’t understand the disappointment around the White trade. We’ve played incredibly well with him in this short span so far.

I agree -- White adds more to the team than JR or DS and I'm glad for the trade.

my issue with the White trade is the serious overpayment made to get him.   if he isn't providing what JRich, Romeo and the player we would have taken in this year's draft would have been providing this year and going forward, it was a bad trade.  so far, he hasn't provided that.  He's a better ball handler and passer but his scoring is not what JRich provided and he cannot provide solid defense on 2 players at the same time as JRich and Romeo could. 

From what I've seen, he's a decent bench player to have but not for what we gave up.

If you just look at the individual output of the players, that would lead you to your point of view

I prefer to look at how it affects the play of the team. Adding White means improvement of ball flow and decision making, which this team desperately needed.

Most importantly, we had the core of something special all along when all our starters were playing, but it rapidly deteriorated when we went to our bench. Richardson was a plus defender, but the tight team concept we had with the starters just didn't hold up when he came in, whether you can blame him for that or not. White allows us to keep that going when Smart goes to the bench.

So the differences between the two can seem trivial as individuals, but the team impact is much more significant.

I love white.  I think he will only get better.  He's been here like 6 games. 

Right now the cs would pick 19th.  4 games out of the 26th spot.  If the cs keep winning and it's a pick that late then the only way this deal is lost by the cs is if the swap comes in to play.  Right now this deal has made the current team so much better with so much more balance.  The bench is rounded into form and the cs are 100% contenders as long as they keep playing this level of D.  Richardson was having a comeback year after 3 bad years.  White is the perfect fit.  We all see what happens when Smart goes down.

[Sophomore]

missed most of the game -- caught the 4th quarter on the bar TV during lunch.  noticed no Timelord or White during the 4th quarter.  can someone provide an explanation why they weren't in the game ahead of Pritchard?

Payton was playing arguably his best game of the season and White was having a bad game.  Not sure about Rob.  Al and Grant were both having good games.  Someone had to sit.

TP for the update.

seems White is still not justifying what we gave up to get him.

This was his only disappointing game so far.

Still don’t understand the disappointment around the White trade. We’ve played incredibly well with him in this short span so far.

I agree -- White adds more to the team than JR or DS and I'm glad for the trade.

my issue with the White trade is the serious overpayment made to get him.   if he isn't providing what JRich, Romeo and the player we would have taken in this year's draft would have been providing this year and going forward, it was a bad trade.  so far, he hasn't provided that.  He's a better ball handler and passer but his scoring is not what JRich provided and he cannot provide solid defense on 2 players at the same time as JRich and Romeo could. 

From what I've seen, he's a decent bench player to have but not for what we gave up.

If you just look at the individual output of the players, that would lead you to your point of view

I prefer to look at how it affects the play of the team. Adding White means improvement of ball flow and decision making, which this team desperately needed.

Most importantly, we had the core of something special all along when all our starters were playing, but it rapidly deteriorated when we went to our bench. Richardson was a plus defender, but the tight team concept we had with the starters just didn't hold up when he came in, whether you can blame him for that or not. White allows us to keep that going when Smart goes to the bench.

So the differences between the two can seem trivial as individuals, but the team impact is much more significant.

I love white.  I think he will only get better.  He's been here like 6 games. 

Right now the cs would pick 19th.  4 games out of the 26th spot.  If the cs keep winning and it's a pick that late then the only way this deal is lost by the cs is if the swap comes in to play.  Right now this deal has made the current team so much better with so much more balance.  The bench is rounded into form and the cs are 100% contenders as long as they keep playing this level of D.  Richardson was having a comeback year after 3 bad years.  White is the perfect fit.  We all see what happens when Smart goes down.

TP. Agreed.