Bradley Beal and Covid

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He is in protocol; missed the Olympics because of Covid and remains unvaccinated....why would we trade for him if he remains a time bomb>

 Vax doesn't guarantee anything.

yup

Vax guarantees you'll be stronger against the virus. Duh. You'll beat it easier/quicker.

 You sure about that?

Yes, because that's how vaccines have been working since 1796.

Suddenly not believing in them is idiocy.

It pains me to see the amount of people that still don’t understand such a simple concept

It is what it is. Modern media has screwed things up. People profiteering of lies and imaginations. Can't really blame people for believing. Science is quickly becoming magic to most. It's like we're back to the age of burning witches hey

Exactly. Why would Beal need to get vaccinated if he already had natural immunity. Duh. Science people.

Why would Beal need to be in protocols if he already has natural immunity?

Because the people who make the rules don't care about natural immunity anymore. We just need to keep increasing Big Pharma's profits and stock options.

Umm, Beal is in Covid protocols because he tested for Covid, meaning his natural immunity didn’t do him much good.

Wait, is his natural immunity decreasing his risk of hospitalization or death? Or is that only the goalpost for the vaccines now and natural immunity requires 100% protection from reinfection?

What are you talking about?  People were saying that Beal didn’t need to be in protocols because he has “natural immunity.”  The NBA rule is that if you test positive, your win protocols, vaccine, prior infection history, or both.  There’s no moved goalpost.

I was responding to "didn't do him much good". I doubt you'd use that phrasing about someone who was vaccinated and entered protocols. The vaccine "didn't do him much good". If you would use the same phrasing, good for you. I'd love to see it.

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He is in protocol; missed the Olympics because of Covid and remains unvaccinated....why would we trade for him if he remains a time bomb>

 Vax doesn't guarantee anything.

yup

Vax guarantees you'll be stronger against the virus. Duh. You'll beat it easier/quicker.

 You sure about that?

Yes, because that's how vaccines have been working since 1796.

Suddenly not believing in them is idiocy.

It pains me to see the amount of people that still don’t understand such a simple concept

It is what it is. Modern media has screwed things up. People profiteering of lies and imaginations. Can't really blame people for believing. Science is quickly becoming magic to most. It's like we're back to the age of burning witches hey

Exactly. Why would Beal need to get vaccinated if he already had natural immunity. Duh. Science people.

Why would Beal need to be in protocols if he already has natural immunity?

Because the people who make the rules don't care about natural immunity anymore. We just need to keep increasing Big Pharma's profits and stock options.

Umm, Beal is in Covid protocols because he tested for Covid, meaning his natural immunity didn’t do him much good.

assuming all our individual, the nba players, and beal's tests are and were accurate, assuming his present test is accurate, his natural immunity didnt work and neither did the vaccines, they moved the goalposts, we were told they prevent catching covid.  Lots of players are p---ed

I’d say the Omicron variant moved the goalposts, personally, by evading both vaccines and “natural” immunity.

And Delta and prior strains given enough time between vaccinations...

edit: ... and the future stains we knew were inevitable...

[GreenlyGreeny]

All else equal, being vaccinated is far better protection than not being vaccinated. Dramatically improves the odds of not getting long-haul, being hospitalized or dying. It’s that simple. And even if previously infected, also being vaccinated after that exposure confers even greater protection than just relying on the history of your immune system to the prior exposure(s).

If someone has a phobia of needles, like I do, just look the other way when it’s time for the jab (works great for me).

[Celtics2021]

He is in protocol; missed the Olympics because of Covid and remains unvaccinated....why would we trade for him if he remains a time bomb>

 Vax doesn't guarantee anything.

yup

Vax guarantees you'll be stronger against the virus. Duh. You'll beat it easier/quicker.

 You sure about that?

Yes, because that's how vaccines have been working since 1796.

Suddenly not believing in them is idiocy.

It pains me to see the amount of people that still don’t understand such a simple concept

It is what it is. Modern media has screwed things up. People profiteering of lies and imaginations. Can't really blame people for believing. Science is quickly becoming magic to most. It's like we're back to the age of burning witches hey

Exactly. Why would Beal need to get vaccinated if he already had natural immunity. Duh. Science people.

Why would Beal need to be in protocols if he already has natural immunity?

Because the people who make the rules don't care about natural immunity anymore. We just need to keep increasing Big Pharma's profits and stock options.

Umm, Beal is in Covid protocols because he tested for Covid, meaning his natural immunity didn’t do him much good.

Wait, is his natural immunity decreasing his risk of hospitalization or death? Or is that only the goalpost for the vaccines now and natural immunity requires 100% protection from reinfection?

What are you talking about?  People were saying that Beal didn’t need to be in protocols because he has “natural immunity.”  The NBA rule is that if you test positive, your win protocols, vaccine, prior infection history, or both.  There’s no moved goalpost.

I was responding to "didn't do him much good". I doubt you'd use that phrasing about someone who was vaccinated and entered protocols. The vaccine "didn't do him much good". If you would use the same phrasing, good for you. I'd love to see it.

As someone who cancelled Christmas plans because vaccines couldn’t keep safe an immune compromised family member, no, I wouldn’t say that at all.  I personally expected we’d need 3-4 doses of vaccines to provide broad protection, because that’s the case for most of the vaccines that we take, but I consider myself at 3 doses not vaccinated enough to keep my father-in-law with lymphoma safe during a major out break like we’re experiencing now.

But what sickens me most of all is your insistence on putting words in other people’s mouths with your anti-vax mythology.  Just stop it.  It’s puerile.

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He is in protocol; missed the Olympics because of Covid and remains unvaccinated....why would we trade for him if he remains a time bomb>

 Vax doesn't guarantee anything.

yup

Vax guarantees you'll be stronger against the virus. Duh. You'll beat it easier/quicker.

 You sure about that?

Yes, because that's how vaccines have been working since 1796.

Suddenly not believing in them is idiocy.

It pains me to see the amount of people that still don’t understand such a simple concept

It is what it is. Modern media has screwed things up. People profiteering of lies and imaginations. Can't really blame people for believing. Science is quickly becoming magic to most. It's like we're back to the age of burning witches hey

Exactly. Why would Beal need to get vaccinated if he already had natural immunity. Duh. Science people.

Why would Beal need to be in protocols if he already has natural immunity?

Because the people who make the rules don't care about natural immunity anymore. We just need to keep increasing Big Pharma's profits and stock options.

Umm, Beal is in Covid protocols because he tested for Covid, meaning his natural immunity didn’t do him much good.

Wait, is his natural immunity decreasing his risk of hospitalization or death? Or is that only the goalpost for the vaccines now and natural immunity requires 100% protection from reinfection?

What are you talking about?  People were saying that Beal didn’t need to be in protocols because he has “natural immunity.”  The NBA rule is that if you test positive, your win protocols, vaccine, prior infection history, or both.  There’s no moved goalpost.

I was responding to "didn't do him much good". I doubt you'd use that phrasing about someone who was vaccinated and entered protocols. The vaccine "didn't do him much good". If you would use the same phrasing, good for you. I'd love to see it.

As someone who cancelled Christmas plans because vaccines couldn’t keep safe an immune compromised family member, no, I wouldn’t say that at all.  I personally expected we’d need 3-4 doses of vaccines to provide broad protection, because that’s the case for most of the vaccines that we take, but I consider myself at 3 doses not vaccinated enough to keep my father-in-law with lymphoma safe during a major out break like we’re experiencing now.

But what sickens me most of all is your insistence on putting words in other people’s mouths with your anti-vax mythology.  Just stop it.  It’s puerile.

You aren’t making sense. I quoted you and critiqued the statement. I allowed for the possibility that your statement did not represent the whole of your opinion.

Anti-vax mythology? I guess if it makes it easier for you to be dismissive, so be it. Happy to go into specifics too.

[moiso]

Beal has received his first vaccination dose, today I believe.  According to associated press in hoopshype.

[GreenlyGreeny]

Beal has received his first vaccination dose, today I believe.  According to associated press in hoopshype.

Yep. Hopefully he’s recovering well, and is not one of the many who decided to get vaccinated after it’s too late (frankly, just a matter of time before an unvaccinated athlete gets a severe case of long-haul that makes them not so athletic again)

[Kiorrik]

I can not believe the amount of misinformation out there, nor how willing people are too believe in them. People just looking for any excuse not to get a jab. Childish cowardice. Trust is gone. It's sad.

and I can't believe how many people still trust CNN and all MSM after they've been proven to be liars over and over....it's not childish cowardice. Do your own research and use critical thinking.

I don't get CNN. Or MSM.

"Do your own research" doesn't beat researchers' lifetimes worth of research. You can't just google and youtube your way into understanding a vaccine.

Listen to doctors. To people that study this stuff. Don't listen to someone who "did their own research".

We have the internet at our fingertips and somehow it's made us dumber.

.edit: I'ma say this again. I have a friend, that's over 50 years old, who's a researcher in the field of infection prevention. This friend told me "oh, I don't know enough about vaccinations, I listen to the experts on that. I hate putting stuff in my body that I don't understand, but they know better."

This is a person that's won awards with their work. Not a slouch. Insane amount of relevant knowledge. STILL opts to listen to people that know more then them.

That is my "own research". We can't fathom what goes into the vaccination decision. That's what we've got experts for. Listen to them. They know.

[ManchesterCelticsFan]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/parade.com/1298120/marilynvossavant/why-do-americans-decline-vaccination/amp/


   
"Why Do So Many People Refuse Vaccination?"
Marilyn vos Savant Marilyn vos Savant
 

"Do you have any insight into why so many Americans decline vaccination? I don’t believe the reason is political. The people are too diverse."

—Gina Romano, San Jose, California


"One reason may be underestimated: In the past, real-life injections were never shown on TV or in print. Now the sight of needles piercing arms is everywhere. This is sure to increase the fear of needles suffered by up to 25 percent of the population. The fear is often intense: Some people feel anxious; others become nauseated, have difficulty breathing or faint. To avoid confronting this fear, they may find all sorts of reasons to reject vaccination. This is different from refusing to wear a mask, a separate subject."

Funny - this reminded me that my dad, a WW2 veteran and a pretty tough individual, had a fear of needles. He’d faint at the sight.

Interesting so you have some potential first hand evidence of it. I also know people that got their covid vaccine and are just to lazy, irresponsible to get their booster even though when they got their original vaccine, it's not longer effective at this point. I know other people that might as well just be using a megaphone "I'm a gigantic ignoramus" when it comes to vaccines. Survival of the most responsible is what it will eventually come down to.