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Re: Welcome Dennis Schroder!
« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2021, 11:35:13 AM »

Offline hpantazo

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Schroder at $6M is a great signing.  No doubt.  Gives us a surplus at guard now though so it seems like someone will have to go.

Trade Smart:  Schroder, Pritchard, Dunn is a fine PG rotation.  No longer a need to play Smart at PG.  For SG/Wing, we have Brown, Richardson, Nesmith, and Langford, plenty of depth.  I still like Smart but he is now very expendable from a roster standpoint.

Trade Richardson:  Same logic as above but instead of trading Smart, you trade Richardson.  Richardson is probably better suited for the SG/Wing role than Smart who leans more PG/Combo.

Smart for Markkanen.  Good trade if it wasn't for the hard cap plus CHI has plenty of guards, just spent big on Ball, so I don't see the fit for Smart.  Hard time seeing this happen but intriguing.

Richardson for Bagley.  No hard cap.  More questions with Bagley.  Richardson is probably more suited to the resulting role on the Celtics (SG/Wing) than Smart, keeping Richardson and getting Markkanen is probably best from a roster balance standpoint.  Keeping Smart, getting Bagley does address our PF dearth.

I strongly doubt Dunn will be here come the start of the season. We have to drop to 15 rostered players. I think our depth chart will look like this:

Ball Handlers: Smart, Schroder, Pritchard
Wings: Brown, Tatum, Richardson, Nesmith, Langford, Edwards
Bigs: Horford, Timelord, Kanter, Gwill, Parker, Fernando

Gwill is kind of a floater, I'm not really sure if he's a wing or a big. Richardson can probably handle the ball if needed but he's not going to do that fulltime.

Just my opinion, and it will probably be unpopular for those of us (including myself) who grew up watching the original Celtics Big Three of Bird, McHale and Parish in the frontcourt, but the whole power forward vs small forward argument I think is probably anachronistic in this era...you play to your strengths and to take advantage of the opposition's weaknesses. I feel like most coaches want a switchable lineup who can defend multiple positions, rebound, handle the ball (some better than others) and stretch the court. If you have a Tim Duncan style power forward with a solid traditional center, you play a two-big lineup. Or if you don't, you play your power forward as your main big. Unfortunately we don't. The only two bigs we might want to play together would be Horford and Timelord (for certain matchups) or Gwill with any of the other bigs. Otherwise I think it's ball handlers, wings and bigs and Schroder adds nicely to our depth.
Totally agree
Additionally, in modern era having Smart (and even Schroeder now) that can switch on screens easily is an added value in playoffs. My impression is that offensively we don't have the overall amount of talent required to fight for something.


If we get the Aaron Nesmith that we saw last night then we do have the offensive talent to contend.

Re: Welcome Dennis Schroder!
« Reply #31 on: August 11, 2021, 11:39:43 AM »

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Schroder at $6M is a great signing.  No doubt.  Gives us a surplus at guard now though so it seems like someone will have to go.

Trade Smart:  Schroder, Pritchard, Dunn is a fine PG rotation.  No longer a need to play Smart at PG.  For SG/Wing, we have Brown, Richardson, Nesmith, and Langford, plenty of depth.  I still like Smart but he is now very expendable from a roster standpoint.

Trade Richardson:  Same logic as above but instead of trading Smart, you trade Richardson.  Richardson is probably better suited for the SG/Wing role than Smart who leans more PG/Combo.

Smart for Markkanen.  Good trade if it wasn't for the hard cap plus CHI has plenty of guards, just spent big on Ball, so I don't see the fit for Smart.  Hard time seeing this happen but intriguing.

Richardson for Bagley.  No hard cap.  More questions with Bagley.  Richardson is probably more suited to the resulting role on the Celtics (SG/Wing) than Smart, keeping Richardson and getting Markkanen is probably best from a roster balance standpoint.  Keeping Smart, getting Bagley does address our PF dearth.

I strongly doubt Dunn will be here come the start of the season. We have to drop to 15 rostered players. I think our depth chart will look like this:

Ball Handlers: Smart, Schroder, Pritchard
Wings: Brown, Tatum, Richardson, Nesmith, Langford, Edwards
Bigs: Horford, Timelord, Kanter, Gwill, Parker, Fernando

Gwill is kind of a floater, I'm not really sure if he's a wing or a big. Richardson can probably handle the ball if needed but he's not going to do that fulltime.

Just my opinion, and it will probably be unpopular for those of us (including myself) who grew up watching the original Celtics Big Three of Bird, McHale and Parish in the frontcourt, but the whole power forward vs small forward argument I think is probably anachronistic in this era...you play to your strengths and to take advantage of the opposition's weaknesses. I feel like most coaches want a switchable lineup who can defend multiple positions, rebound, handle the ball (some better than others) and stretch the court. If you have a Tim Duncan style power forward with a solid traditional center, you play a two-big lineup. Or if you don't, you play your power forward as your main big. Unfortunately we don't. The only two bigs we might want to play together would be Horford and Timelord (for certain matchups) or Gwill with any of the other bigs. Otherwise I think it's ball handlers, wings and bigs and Schroder adds nicely to our depth.
Totally agree
Additionally, in modern era having Smart (and even Schroeder now) that can switch on screens easily is an added value in playoffs. My impression is that offensively we don't have the overall amount of talent required to fight for something.

I am not sure if Dunn being here or not makes all that much difference.  If we are able to trade Dunn, the 3rd PG will be Madar or someone.  It doesn't really matter.  It doesn't change Smart's role.

Schroder should play starter minutes at PG (the only position he can really play) and Pritchard should play regular rotation back up minutes.  That is going to essentially cover the PG rotation.  We don't need Smart to play PG in this scenario and the 3rd PG will be limited to filling in for injury, foul trouble, things like that.  Now I guess you can say Smart is the deep depth but that his "day job" is as SG/Wing depth but we really don't need Smart at SG/Wing either.

Smart is very versatile as a player so if they don't trade him by the start of the season, I am sure they can work it out.  He is far more expendable now based on adding Schroder though.  His projected role was as the primary PG.  That has now changed.  Schroder is a starter and a more natural PG than Smart.  Smart becomes more of a utility infielder.  He can do that role fine but it is kind of a waste.

Re: Welcome Dennis Schroder!
« Reply #32 on: August 11, 2021, 12:17:13 PM »

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Odds and ends I found via a Google search

Is Dennis Schröder hair a birthmark?

Dennis Schröder. Deutschland Dollop, is not a birthmark. ... Anyway, according to this article, which I did not fact-check, Schröder's mom, a hairstylist in Germany, encouraged Dennis to dye a blond spot in his hair at a young age so he would stand-out.


Is Dennis Schroder biracial?
 

Schröder is the son of a German father and a Gambian mother. He stated that he started focusing on his basketball career after his father died in 2009. He and his brother were both heavily involved with skateboarding until Dennis found basketball at age 11.

General Information – Wiki link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Schr%C3%B6der


Re: Welcome Dennis Schroder!
« Reply #33 on: August 11, 2021, 12:23:29 PM »

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welcome Dennis!

Excited about this signing. Strikes me as a competitive guy who doesn't take flak from other team...
The C's were a bit snoozy in this department last year...time to get edgy again.