Stevens has been tuned out!

[gouki88]

Some won't be happy until the Celtics have a coach that acts like this every second of every game and in every interview and news conference:

I'd be happy with a 70.6% win percentage

[GreenWarrior]

The past couple posts represent the one thing I absolutely can't stand about this site and Celtics fans in general you talk above posters/people who are right time and time again and then someone with less knowledge takes what you say and runs with it.

It's really a microcosm of everything wrong with this team. Because we get guys like gorman(who I love but in his later yrs. has become a bit "tommy") says dumb crap like "can't trade avery bradley, can't trade tyler zeller"...

And then the fans that take everything these guys say as gospel spread that same nonsense.

 It's ok to not be a sheep, you can have your own thoughts.

Back to the subject, I'm not just pulling this crap out of the ether, it's basketball 101. Getting to the free throw line esp. late in games is the way you win games in this league. Perimeter teams don't win it's fact. They don't win because those shots don't fall when they need to it's just the way it is.

But it's ok we'll sit back and watch your way fail.

[Big333223]

I've always been a big Brad fan. I still am. I think he's a great coach. I also think that at a certain point, getting a new voice in the locker room and getting a new set of eyes on the players can be valuable. Not just any voice or any eyes. Don't fire Brad to bring in a worse coach. But we're talking about 8 years here. 8 years where the team usually over-performed expectations (with one big exception that I don't think you can blame on Stevens).

This year, the team has talent but is losing winnable games and isn't playing with cohesion. If Kemba and Smart get healthy and they reel off some wins and wind up the 3rd seed and making a deep run, then maybe it'll all be fine. But if they finish 37-35, it might be time.

The only player that's he's coached that long is Marcus Smart. With the sheer amount of roster turnover we've had, no player has really been here long enough to justify "tuning him out".

Yes here's how long each player has been coached by Brad:

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Player Time Coached (yrs)
Smart 6
Brown 4
Tatum 3
Ojeleye 3
Theis 3
Walker 2
R. Williams 2
G. Williams 1
J. Green 1
Edwards 1
Waters 1
Fall 1
Langford 1
Pritchard <1
Teague <1
Nesmith <1
Thompson <1


Maybe it's the fans that are tuning him out. Good thing we're not on the team 

I didn't mean to defend the "tuning him out" narrative. I think you're both right about the players side. I'm more thinking about the Brad side. He's been in the same place for going on 8 years now. What does that do to him? What kind of precedent is there for a coach being with a team for that long without winning it all and then finally winning it all?

It could definitely happen and I'm not advocating for Stevens to be fired but I do wonder how long you keep a coach around, even if he's doing a good job, before it becomes more valuable (from an institutional standpoint) just to reset.

[Bobshot]

If the players are really tuning out the coach, that's a problem Ainge must address.

Stevens was impressive the first few years until they got some real talent.  Then there was that 7th playoff game against the Cavs at home Celtics teams never lose. And they just quit.  That was a shocker. I've never seen a Celtics team quit on a coach. And I've seen all of them, starting with Auerbach. You get situations like that, you wonder about the coach.
It's about discipline and knowing your role. And respecting the coach.