Voiding the trade is a great Crisitunity

[KGs Knee]

Further crisitunity points.....teach the Cavs (and league) not to mess with us. Take back Kyrie. Have fun with Kyrie Cavs.

The Cavs will just trade Kyrie to any one of the other teams that wanted him. His trade value doesn't really change regardless of whatever happens with this trade.

But I also doubt the Cavs will get as good of an asset as that Brooklyn pick form any other team.

[Eja117]

It might work, but only for one year. IT wouldn't resign here.

Say he gets back most of his athleticism and has a good finals.

Then we can offer him the most money.

So he's looking at a bigger offer to be on a better team he helped build.

You think he'll go somewhere less good for less money because his feelings are just that hurt? He's got all sorts of physical toughness but no emotional or logical or empathetic toughness?

What team will he go to for less money? The Jazz? The Bulls? The Knicks?

[Eja117]

Further crisitunity points.....teach the Cavs (and league) not to mess with us. Take back Kyrie. Have fun with Kyrie Cavs.

The Cavs will just trade Kyrie to any one of the other teams that wanted him. His trade value doesn't really change regardless of whatever happens with this trade.

But I also doubt the Cavs will get as good of an asset as that Brooklyn pick form any other team.

Kyrie would have to waive his trade kicker. He won't unless he gets as good a situation as this.

Ainge has every ounce of leverage

[KGs Knee]

Further crisitunity points.....teach the Cavs (and league) not to mess with us. Take back Kyrie. Have fun with Kyrie Cavs.

The Cavs will just trade Kyrie to any one of the other teams that wanted him. His trade value doesn't really change regardless of whatever happens with this trade.

But I also doubt the Cavs will get as good of an asset as that Brooklyn pick form any other team.

Kyrie would have to waive his trade kicker. He won't unless he gets as good a situation as this.

Ainge has every ounce of leverage

Kyrie doesn't have to waive it of the other team is willing to pay his resulting higher salary.

[Eja117]

Further crisitunity points.....teach the Cavs (and league) not to mess with us. Take back Kyrie. Have fun with Kyrie Cavs.

The Cavs will just trade Kyrie to any one of the other teams that wanted him. His trade value doesn't really change regardless of whatever happens with this trade.

But I also doubt the Cavs will get as good of an asset as that Brooklyn pick form any other team.

Kyrie would have to waive his trade kicker. He won't unless he gets as good a situation as this.

Ainge has every ounce of leverage

Kyrie doesn't have to waive it of the other team is willing to pay his resulting higher salary.

Not sure some other team is going to want to pay more for a disappointed 2 year rental of Kyrie

[BringToughnessBack]

Interesting idea/thought. it could work if IT fully rehabs and fences are mended. IT's father said he understands it is business and even IT's father had been moved around throughout his 30 year career as well.

http://www.celticslife.com/2017/08/isaiah-thomas-father-comments-on-his.html

I am sure IT and Danny had a long talk/talks since this happened. Danny was visibly shaken during his press conference as well. I think when the Cavs ask for the sun, moon and stars in addition to the huge package they got, Danny says NO. If he doesn't, he could possibly be creating what we were hoping to build in Boston, a team with an amazing present and future. Adding potentially two top 5 picks to that Cavs team before Lebron makes another Big Decision is beyond ludicrous in my eyes. They can package those assets and get a big time superstar to join them or simply draft two potentially generational talents to join the stocked team they have already.

TP for the topic.

[SHAQATTACK]

What bothers me , other teams recent history of treating  business deals with  Celtics.  If they can 't totally fleece the Celtics .....they ignore the better offer from the Celtics and take a lesser offer for their player from another club.   Im not sure if this is hate for Boston Sports in general, Hate for Danny , hate for Celtics .   Its like ....other teams would rather loose value than trade with Celtics .

I thought Danny paid way more than anybody else even when you forget about IT .

there seems to be some under current of hate for the Celtics and maybe the Lakers as well when it comes to trading anymore . 

[Eja117]

What bothers me , other teams recent history of treating  business deals with  Celtics.  If they can 't totally fleece the Celtics .....they ignore the better offer from the Celtics and take a lesser offer for their player from another club.   Im not sure if this is hate for Boston Sports in general, Hate for Danny , hate for Celtics .   Its like ....other teams would rather loose value than trade with Celtics .

I thought Danny paid way more than anybody else even when you forget about IT .

there seems to be some under current of hate for the Celtics and maybe the Lakers as well when it comes to trading anymore .

It's so pathetic. It's like they're all afraid they'll be the next Nets. If you're afraid of that you shouldn't be doing this

[CelticsElite]

What bothers me , other teams recent history of treating  business deals with  Celtics.  If they can 't totally fleece the Celtics .....they ignore the better offer from the Celtics and take a lesser offer for their player from another club.   Im not sure if this is hate for Boston Sports in general, Hate for Danny , hate for Celtics .   Its like ....other teams would rather loose value than trade with Celtics .

I thought Danny paid way more than anybody else even when you forget about IT .

there seems to be some under current of hate for the Celtics and maybe the Lakers as well when it comes to trading anymore .

let those teams rot. The kyrie deal was fair considering ITs condition, let's hope all we need to add to the deal is maybe a late 1st

[guava_wrench]

What on earth makes you think IT and Kyrie can co-exist in the same back court?

You think Thomas is going to all of a sudden be okay with going back to a bench role?

That will never work. The damage is done.

An IT and Kyrie backcourt? Ohhh yyeeaahhh. Nobody would eeeevvverrr want that. Terrible. Would never win

Remember IT, Bledsoe, and Dragic? Misuse of talent.

No, no contending team would ever want IT and Kyrie in the same backcourt. A bad team, sure. It would be exciting while losing.

Then again, IT won't bring much to the table with a bum hip. So he can look good in a suit while Kyrie plays.

[Eja117]

What on earth makes you think IT and Kyrie can co-exist in the same back court?

You think Thomas is going to all of a sudden be okay with going back to a bench role?

That will never work. The damage is done.

An IT and Kyrie backcourt? Ohhh yyeeaahhh. Nobody would eeeevvverrr want that. Terrible. Would never win

Remember IT, Bledsoe, and Dragic? Misuse of talent.

No, no contending team would ever want IT and Kyrie in the same backcourt. A bad team, sure. It would be exciting while losing.

Then again, IT won't bring much to the table with a bum hip. So he can look good in a suit while Kyrie plays.

If the hip is so terrible he could be a sixth man under the theory that he is protecting his health.

Teams gotta outscore us. Good luck outscoring Kyrie/IT. Who do you think is gonna do that outside of Steph/Klay?  John Wall/Beal?  Good luck with that

[guava_wrench]

Further crisitunity points.....teach the Cavs (and league) not to mess with us. Take back Kyrie. Have fun with Kyrie Cavs.

The Cavs will just trade Kyrie to any one of the other teams that wanted him. His trade value doesn't really change regardless of whatever happens with this trade.

But I also doubt the Cavs will get as good of an asset as that Brooklyn pick form any other team.

Kyrie would have to waive his trade kicker. He won't unless he gets as good a situation as this.

Ainge has every ounce of leverage

Kyrie doesn't have to waive it of the other team is willing to pay his resulting higher salary.

If he doesn't waive it, it will cost the Cavs. Kyrie's trade kicker gives him leverage to go where he wants to go by making his acquisition less costly for the team he wants to go to. By giving more value to the team, it allows the Cavs to get more value back.

Of course, all that gets trumped by how much a team wants Kyrie.

[guava_wrench]

What on earth makes you think IT and Kyrie can co-exist in the same back court?

You think Thomas is going to all of a sudden be okay with going back to a bench role?

That will never work. The damage is done.

An IT and Kyrie backcourt? Ohhh yyeeaahhh. Nobody would eeeevvverrr want that. Terrible. Would never win

Remember IT, Bledsoe, and Dragic? Misuse of talent.

No, no contending team would ever want IT and Kyrie in the same backcourt. A bad team, sure. It would be exciting while losing.

Then again, IT won't bring much to the table with a bum hip. So he can look good in a suit while Kyrie plays.

If the hip is so terrible he could be a sixth man under the theory that he is protecting his health.

Teams gotta outscore us. Good luck outscoring Kyrie/IT. Who do you think is gonna do that outside of Steph/Klay?  John Wall/Beal?  Good luck with that

They can outscore us with that defense. Those pairs you mention have at least one guy who can defend. And those 4 are all healthy. And how does it make any sense to talk about only guard scoring? Are we going to play 2 on 2?

And "they gotta outscore us" is a vacuous argument. This isn't shootaround.

[Eja117]

What on earth makes you think IT and Kyrie can co-exist in the same back court?

You think Thomas is going to all of a sudden be okay with going back to a bench role?

That will never work. The damage is done.

An IT and Kyrie backcourt? Ohhh yyeeaahhh. Nobody would eeeevvverrr want that. Terrible. Would never win

Remember IT, Bledsoe, and Dragic? Misuse of talent.

No, no contending team would ever want IT and Kyrie in the same backcourt. A bad team, sure. It would be exciting while losing.

Then again, IT won't bring much to the table with a bum hip. So he can look good in a suit while Kyrie plays.

If the hip is so terrible he could be a sixth man under the theory that he is protecting his health.

Teams gotta outscore us. Good luck outscoring Kyrie/IT. Who do you think is gonna do that outside of Steph/Klay?  John Wall/Beal?  Good luck with that

They can outscore us with that defense. Those pairs you mention have at least one guy who can defend. And those 4 are all healthy. And how does it make any sense to talk about only guard scoring? Are we going to play 2 on 2?

And "they gotta outscore us" is a vacuous argument. This isn't shootaround.

I don't subscribe to the "defense wins championships" argument. Not by a long shot. That just about never happens.