If Carmelo gets stretched?

[Eddie20]

Serious question: is Melo a positive player?

My answer is no.

That's the way I'm leaning. He's a ball-stopping volume scorer and doesn't play defense. He plays like he's a team's best player, when he's best suited to be a sixth man at this point. Even for nothing, I'd probably pass.

He has arguably been his team's best player every single season of his entire career. He can create his own shot and this Celtics team would be the most talented team he has ever played on. You dont sign him (and he doesnt come here for that matter) unless he buys into the system. I think he would.

See, I think it's a nice idea if he buys into the system, but I don't see that happening. I know people like to assume we could get him to function like Team USA Melo, but on Team USA he's deferring to the likes of Kevin Durant. Do you really think Melo respects IT enough to realize that IT runs circle around him? I'd like to see Melo in Cleveland, to see if he really is able to neglect his ego and put winning first. I don't think that's happening in Boston.

Melo isn't exactly a ball stopper. Just because someone takes a lot of shots, it doesn't mean that someone is a ball stopper.  Anthony has always shown the ability to play within a system and pass the ball.  He mostly is on a team that needs his scoring, so he tends to score a lot.

Moranis or Phil Jackson? Hmmm....though call, but I'm going to have to go with Jackson on this one. Not because Moranis isn't VERY knowledgable, but because Jackson has seen him daily for a few years now.

New York Knicks president Phil Jackson said Carmelo Anthony can play the "role that Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant played" in their teams' triangle offenses, but he believes that Anthony sometimes breaks a team rule by holding on to the ball for too long.

"Carmelo a lot of times wants to hold the ball longer than -- we have a rule: If you hold a pass two seconds, you benefit the defense. So he has a little bit of a tendency to hold it for three, four, five seconds, and then everybody comes to a stop," Jackson said in an interview with CBS Sports Network that aired Tuesday. "That is one of the things we work with. But he's adjusted to [the triangle], he knows what he can do and he's willing to see its success."

[Moranis]

Serious question: is Melo a positive player?

My answer is no.

That's the way I'm leaning. He's a ball-stopping volume scorer and doesn't play defense. He plays like he's a team's best player, when he's best suited to be a sixth man at this point. Even for nothing, I'd probably pass.

He has arguably been his team's best player every single season of his entire career. He can create his own shot and this Celtics team would be the most talented team he has ever played on. You dont sign him (and he doesnt come here for that matter) unless he buys into the system. I think he would.

See, I think it's a nice idea if he buys into the system, but I don't see that happening. I know people like to assume we could get him to function like Team USA Melo, but on Team USA he's deferring to the likes of Kevin Durant. Do you really think Melo respects IT enough to realize that IT runs circle around him? I'd like to see Melo in Cleveland, to see if he really is able to neglect his ego and put winning first. I don't think that's happening in Boston.

Melo isn't exactly a ball stopper. Just because someone takes a lot of shots, it doesn't mean that someone is a ball stopper.  Anthony has always shown the ability to play within a system and pass the ball.  He mostly is on a team that needs his scoring, so he tends to score a lot.

Moranis or Phil Jackson? Hmmm....though call, but I'm going to have to go with Jackson on this one. Not because Moranis isn't VERY knowledgable, but because Jackson has seen him daily for a few years now.

New York Knicks president Phil Jackson said Carmelo Anthony can play the "role that Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant played" in their teams' triangle offenses, but he believes that Anthony sometimes breaks a team rule by holding on to the ball for too long.

"Carmelo a lot of times wants to hold the ball longer than -- we have a rule: If you hold a pass two seconds, you benefit the defense. So he has a little bit of a tendency to hold it for three, four, five seconds, and then everybody comes to a stop," Jackson said in an interview with CBS Sports Network that aired Tuesday. "That is one of the things we work with. But he's adjusted to [the triangle], he knows what he can do and he's willing to see its success."

Anthony is a great ISO player, no question.  ISO players do tend to hold the ball a bit longer, but that is not the same thing as a ball stopper, at least in the connotation max was stating it at.

You will also note that Jackson says Anthony has adjusted to the triangle and is willing to see its success.  I think those statements are much more about Phil trying to use a system that virtually no player on his team is meant for and he just can't let it go.  Or it could just be Phil bashing Anthony like he did all of last year because he wanted to force Anthony to demand a trade so he would waive his no trade clause.