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[Phantom255x]

Patience is usually key...and our patience is paying dividends, year after year improvement over the past three years.

Adding an outstanding prospect like Fultz and possibly adding an established talent like Hayward (or Griffin if Hayward stays in Utah) would seem to give us a great reason to believe that next year will be the year that we move past the Cavaliers in the East.

Rak

Hopefully, though I still think Cleveland dominates the East next year.

The year after that though? That could be the year 

Lebron becomes 34, Fultz and Zizic in their 2nd year, Brown 3rd, by then hopefully there's more clarity in the roster (IT, Smart, Bradley - who stays/goes, etc.). Oh and the 2018 BKN pick added (which is likely to be a franchise changing BIG MAN) 

[Phantom255x]

I 100% agree and do not want the C's to trade for an all star not named AD if they have to give up either of the Brooklyn picks.

Yeah, Anthony Davis and K.A Towns the only ones worth that #1 pick.

[mctyson]

You guys agree? I think he sums it up perfectly.

I agree, so long as they can develop the younger players.  Popovich proved he could do that. Brad Stevens is clearly capable of putting veterans in the spot to succeed (see: IT) but we have to see if he can develop a few home-grown All Stars.

He is going into year 5 next year so we have at least some evidence here.  Kelly Olynyk has largely been OK but isn't some developmental success to write home about.  Marcus Smart needs to make some sort of leap on the offensive end or he will basically be who he was coming into the league.  Terry Rozier is basically who we thought he was.

I think Jaylen and Fultz will be Steven's biggest challenges as an NBA head coach.  Can he build a contending nucleus with these guys, or will they not reach their expected potential and return 75-cents-on-the-dollar for this franchise?

If it is the latter then we will look at the decision not to cash them in at peak value as a bad one.

[Phantom255x]

You guys agree? I think he sums it up perfectly.

I agree, so long as they can develop the younger players.  Popovich proved he could do that. Brad Stevens is clearly capable of putting veterans in the spot to succeed (see: IT) but we have to see if he can develop a few home-grown All Stars.

He is going into year 5 next year so we have at least some evidence here.  Kelly Olynyk has largely been OK but isn't some developmental success to write home about.  Marcus Smart needs to make some sort of leap on the offensive end or he will basically be who he was coming into the league.  Terry Rozier is basically who we thought he was.

I think Jaylen and Fultz will be Steven's biggest challenges as an NBA head coach.  Can he build a contending nucleus with these guys, or will they not reach their expected potential and return 75-cents-on-the-dollar for this franchise?

If it is the latter then we will look at the decision not to cash them in at peak value as a bad one.

Yeah I agree with most of this.

It's really unfortunate that James Young didn't pan out, but to me Marcus Smart can be the "Tony Allen" with slightly better offense to this future, contending team. Obviously not what you'd expect as a ceiling for a 6th overall pick, but it is what it is, and he's still a key piece IMHO.

Rozier to me is a solid guard off the bench and potential to be a "fringe starter" late in seasons, when injuries/fatigue hit and everything. He needs to control his explosiveness a bit, but he does grab a good amount of rebounds for a guard.

Brown and Fultz is where all the hope lies, and I have high hopes for Zizic as well.

[mctyson]

You guys agree? I think he sums it up perfectly.

I agree, so long as they can develop the younger players.  Popovich proved he could do that. Brad Stevens is clearly capable of putting veterans in the spot to succeed (see: IT) but we have to see if he can develop a few home-grown All Stars.

He is going into year 5 next year so we have at least some evidence here.  Kelly Olynyk has largely been OK but isn't some developmental success to write home about.  Marcus Smart needs to make some sort of leap on the offensive end or he will basically be who he was coming into the league.  Terry Rozier is basically who we thought he was.

I think Jaylen and Fultz will be Steven's biggest challenges as an NBA head coach.  Can he build a contending nucleus with these guys, or will they not reach their expected potential and return 75-cents-on-the-dollar for this franchise?

If it is the latter then we will look at the decision not to cash them in at peak value as a bad one.

Yeah I agree with most of this.

It's really unfortunate that James Young didn't pan out, but to me Marcus Smart can be the "Tony Allen" with slightly better offense to this future, contending team. Obviously not what you'd expect as a ceiling for a 6th overall pick, but it is what it is, and he's still a key piece IMHO.

Rozier to me is a solid guard off the bench and potential to be a "fringe starter" late in seasons, when injuries/fatigue hit and everything. He needs to control his explosiveness a bit, but he does grab a good amount of rebounds for a guard.

Brown and Fultz is where all the hope lies, and I have high hopes for Zizic as well.

I didn't even consider James Young, who could be a major negative on Stevens' resume or just a bad pro, depending on your opinion.

But it is one thing to maximize guys picked in the late-lottery, late-1st, or second round, and some of those success stories are due to better scouting (or luck.)  It a whole other thing to maximize the guys who are supposed to be great.  If you are picked in the top-3, that's who you are.  We will see if Stevens can do that.

[Phantom255x]

You guys agree? I think he sums it up perfectly.

I agree, so long as they can develop the younger players.  Popovich proved he could do that. Brad Stevens is clearly capable of putting veterans in the spot to succeed (see: IT) but we have to see if he can develop a few home-grown All Stars.

He is going into year 5 next year so we have at least some evidence here.  Kelly Olynyk has largely been OK but isn't some developmental success to write home about.  Marcus Smart needs to make some sort of leap on the offensive end or he will basically be who he was coming into the league.  Terry Rozier is basically who we thought he was.

I think Jaylen and Fultz will be Steven's biggest challenges as an NBA head coach.  Can he build a contending nucleus with these guys, or will they not reach their expected potential and return 75-cents-on-the-dollar for this franchise?

If it is the latter then we will look at the decision not to cash them in at peak value as a bad one.

Yeah I agree with most of this.

It's really unfortunate that James Young didn't pan out, but to me Marcus Smart can be the "Tony Allen" with slightly better offense to this future, contending team. Obviously not what you'd expect as a ceiling for a 6th overall pick, but it is what it is, and he's still a key piece IMHO.

Rozier to me is a solid guard off the bench and potential to be a "fringe starter" late in seasons, when injuries/fatigue hit and everything. He needs to control his explosiveness a bit, but he does grab a good amount of rebounds for a guard.

Brown and Fultz is where all the hope lies, and I have high hopes for Zizic as well.

I didn't even consider James Young, who could be a major negative on Stevens' resume or just a bad pro, depending on your opinion.

But it is one thing to maximize guys picked in the late-lottery, late-1st, or second round, and some of those success stories are due to better scouting (or luck.)  It a whole other thing to maximize the guys who are supposed to be great.  If you are picked in the top-3, that's who you are.  We will see if Stevens can do that.

Yeah, makes sense, and I wasn't really criticizing Stevens coaching there or anything, but I just think there was hope James Young could pan out as a solid scoring option, but it didn't happen. That's NOT on Stevens though.

[Celtics4ever]

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I've been listening to Scal alot, and I agree 100% with that path forward. We are in the rare position to mimic the Spurs sustained legacy, we just need to be patient.

The Spurs though were competing for titles, while doing it, we are a ways away from that.  Right now the only legacy we got is "not good enough."