CSNNE : League sources say C's are focused on landing a "front court" all-star

[tarheelsxxiii]

Can you really miss in trading a 2nd for Dwight, especially if you're the Celtics right now?

My concern stems from salary cap implications. Doesn't Dwight make about as much as Horford? If we could field a team that had IT-Smart(or Fultz/Brown)-Hayward-Horford-Dwight, I'm all for it.

I don't know if it's possible. I'd say that team matches up quite well vs Cleveland though.

Yeah, I don't think it could happen if Hayward comes aboard, which seems 50/50.  And he would be a nasty cap hit for a couple years, but as long as he didn't completely suck... he could significantly address our exact areas of need. 

[Somebody]

Can you really miss in trading a 2nd for Dwight, especially if you're the Celtics right now?

My concern stems from salary cap implications. Doesn't Dwight make about as much as Horford? If we could field a team that had IT-Smart(or Fultz/Brown)-Hayward-Horford-Dwight, I'm all for it.

I don't know if it's possible. I'd say that team matches up quite well vs Cleveland though.

Yeah, I don't think it could happen if Hayward comes aboard, which seems 50/50.  And he would be a nasty cap hit for a couple years, but as long as he didn't completely suck... he could significantly address our exact areas of need.

Dwight makes a little more than 23 million a year for 2 more years. That's ok tbh because although we can't sign a max FA, we can resign KO and get our rookies on the team. Then say we get a vet or two to join us on te vet min or room exception, then trade away Rozier to clear our logjam.
Lineup:
IT Fultz Jackson
Bradley Smart Nader (on a multi year contract for a 2nd round pick)
Crowder Brown Green (vet min)
Horford KO Jerebko (room exception)
Howard Zizic 2nd round pick
Although the bigs aren't deep it is definitely solid, with Zizic being a backup center rn in terms of quality and KO still being KO (ofc hoping for better consistency but he's pretty much what he is at this point). I think this team is a contender with us being so strong inside with Al and Dwight starting with good perimeter D to wear down opposing teams' perimeter players.

[Beat LA]

I'm not a fan of his or anything, but wasn't there a report recently that the Hawks would only want a second rounder for Dwight Howard?  Oh, how the mighty have fallen.  Honestly, if it's not the Celtics who are looking into him, I think that the Pacers should.  Keep PG, trade Thaddeus Young and Al Jefferson to Atlanta, which is probably a lot more than they could reasonably get for Dwight, anyway, and gives them insurance in case Millsap walks, I guess, move Myles Turner back to power forward, trade Monta Ellis to Sacramento for Arron Afflalo, and suddenly they've got quite the starting five with Stephenson, Afflalo, George, Turner, and Howard.

Additionally, not only does Howard allow them to play faster, but he's one of the few guys in the league who kills Tristan Thompson, thus at least partially taking away from Cleveland's rebounding advantage, and given that George and Stephenson have a track record of getting the most out of a guy like Roy Hibbert, imagine what they could do with Dwight.

Tbh I'd like the Celtics to acquire him, he's an expiring so we can let him go if he doesn't work out. Also he solves our big problems and would be a good pairing with Horford, who can play PF. If he's there for cheap I'd give the Hawks rozier and a 2nd (just absorb the cap in the summer) for him.

He's signed through 2019, per basketballreference.com, though, so would you still want him, then?

why not? He's quick enough to defend on the perimeter on pick and rolls, protects the rim, is an elite rebounder and roll man and has mellowed out in his time with the rockets and hawks (his attitude got better). I think he will be the missing piece we need along with the improvement of our young guys (starting 5 would be IT Bradley Crowder Horford Howard, which imo is a contender with a Smart Fultz Brown Olynyk Zizic 2nd unit). I mean we would be dominating teams inside while having good perimeter defenders to wear other teams' perimeter players down.

He doesn't shoot threes, though .

[Somebody]

I'm not a fan of his or anything, but wasn't there a report recently that the Hawks would only want a second rounder for Dwight Howard?  Oh, how the mighty have fallen.  Honestly, if it's not the Celtics who are looking into him, I think that the Pacers should.  Keep PG, trade Thaddeus Young and Al Jefferson to Atlanta, which is probably a lot more than they could reasonably get for Dwight, anyway, and gives them insurance in case Millsap walks, I guess, move Myles Turner back to power forward, trade Monta Ellis to Sacramento for Arron Afflalo, and suddenly they've got quite the starting five with Stephenson, Afflalo, George, Turner, and Howard.

Additionally, not only does Howard allow them to play faster, but he's one of the few guys in the league who kills Tristan Thompson, thus at least partially taking away from Cleveland's rebounding advantage, and given that George and Stephenson have a track record of getting the most out of a guy like Roy Hibbert, imagine what they could do with Dwight.

Tbh I'd like the Celtics to acquire him, he's an expiring so we can let him go if he doesn't work out. Also he solves our big problems and would be a good pairing with Horford, who can play PF. If he's there for cheap I'd give the Hawks rozier and a 2nd (just absorb the cap in the summer) for him.

He's signed through 2019, per basketballreference.com, though, so would you still want him, then?

why not? He's quick enough to defend on the perimeter on pick and rolls, protects the rim, is an elite rebounder and roll man and has mellowed out in his time with the rockets and hawks (his attitude got better). I think he will be the missing piece we need along with the improvement of our young guys (starting 5 would be IT Bradley Crowder Horford Howard, which imo is a contender with a Smart Fultz Brown Olynyk Zizic 2nd unit). I mean we would be dominating teams inside while having good perimeter defenders to wear other teams' perimeter players down.

He doesn't shoot threes, though .

His FT% is ok though (for Dwight standards). I'd definitely trade him cheap.

[CelticsElite]

I'm not a fan of his or anything, but wasn't there a report recently that the Hawks would only want a second rounder for Dwight Howard?  Oh, how the mighty have fallen.  Honestly, if it's not the Celtics who are looking into him, I think that the Pacers should.  Keep PG, trade Thaddeus Young and Al Jefferson to Atlanta, which is probably a lot more than they could reasonably get for Dwight, anyway, and gives them insurance in case Millsap walks, I guess, move Myles Turner back to power forward, trade Monta Ellis to Sacramento for Arron Afflalo, and suddenly they've got quite the starting five with Stephenson, Afflalo, George, Turner, and Howard.

Additionally, not only does Howard allow them to play faster, but he's one of the few guys in the league who kills Tristan Thompson, thus at least partially taking away from Cleveland's rebounding advantage, and given that George and Stephenson have a track record of getting the most out of a guy like Roy Hibbert, imagine what they could do with Dwight.

Tbh I'd like the Celtics to acquire him, he's an expiring so we can let him go if he doesn't work out. Also he solves our big problems and would be a good pairing with Horford, who can play PF. If he's there for cheap I'd give the Hawks rozier and a 2nd (just absorb the cap in the summer) for him.

He's signed through 2019, per basketballreference.com, though, so would you still want him, then?

why not? He's quick enough to defend on the perimeter on pick and rolls, protects the rim, is an elite rebounder and roll man and has mellowed out in his time with the rockets and hawks (his attitude got better). I think he will be the missing piece we need along with the improvement of our young guys (starting 5 would be IT Bradley Crowder Horford Howard, which imo is a contender with a Smart Fultz Brown Olynyk Zizic 2nd unit). I mean we would be dominating teams inside while having good perimeter defenders to wear other teams' perimeter players down.

He doesn't shoot threes, though .

that's pretty much why no team except the "going nowhere fast" hawks wanted him

[iadera]

I'm not a fan of his or anything, but wasn't there a report recently that the Hawks would only want a second rounder for Dwight Howard?  Oh, how the mighty have fallen.  Honestly, if it's not the Celtics who are looking into him, I think that the Pacers should.  Keep PG, trade Thaddeus Young and Al Jefferson to Atlanta, which is probably a lot more than they could reasonably get for Dwight, anyway, and gives them insurance in case Millsap walks, I guess, move Myles Turner back to power forward, trade Monta Ellis to Sacramento for Arron Afflalo, and suddenly they've got quite the starting five with Stephenson, Afflalo, George, Turner, and Howard.

Additionally, not only does Howard allow them to play faster, but he's one of the few guys in the league who kills Tristan Thompson, thus at least partially taking away from Cleveland's rebounding advantage, and given that George and Stephenson have a track record of getting the most out of a guy like Roy Hibbert, imagine what they could do with Dwight.

Tbh I'd like the Celtics to acquire him, he's an expiring so we can let him go if he doesn't work out. Also he solves our big problems and would be a good pairing with Horford, who can play PF. If he's there for cheap I'd give the Hawks rozier and a 2nd (just absorb the cap in the summer) for him.

He's signed through 2019, per basketballreference.com, though, so would you still want him, then?

why not? He's quick enough to defend on the perimeter on pick and rolls, protects the rim, is an elite rebounder and roll man and has mellowed out in his time with the rockets and hawks (his attitude got better). I think he will be the missing piece we need along with the improvement of our young guys (starting 5 would be IT Bradley Crowder Horford Howard, which imo is a contender with a Smart Fultz Brown Olynyk Zizic 2nd unit). I mean we would be dominating teams inside while having good perimeter defenders to wear other teams' perimeter players down.

That starting 5 is far from contender. If you replace Jae with Hayward, then we can talk.

[Somebody]

I'm not a fan of his or anything, but wasn't there a report recently that the Hawks would only want a second rounder for Dwight Howard?  Oh, how the mighty have fallen.  Honestly, if it's not the Celtics who are looking into him, I think that the Pacers should.  Keep PG, trade Thaddeus Young and Al Jefferson to Atlanta, which is probably a lot more than they could reasonably get for Dwight, anyway, and gives them insurance in case Millsap walks, I guess, move Myles Turner back to power forward, trade Monta Ellis to Sacramento for Arron Afflalo, and suddenly they've got quite the starting five with Stephenson, Afflalo, George, Turner, and Howard.

Additionally, not only does Howard allow them to play faster, but he's one of the few guys in the league who kills Tristan Thompson, thus at least partially taking away from Cleveland's rebounding advantage, and given that George and Stephenson have a track record of getting the most out of a guy like Roy Hibbert, imagine what they could do with Dwight.

Tbh I'd like the Celtics to acquire him, he's an expiring so we can let him go if he doesn't work out. Also he solves our big problems and would be a good pairing with Horford, who can play PF. If he's there for cheap I'd give the Hawks rozier and a 2nd (just absorb the cap in the summer) for him.

He's signed through 2019, per basketballreference.com, though, so would you still want him, then?

why not? He's quick enough to defend on the perimeter on pick and rolls, protects the rim, is an elite rebounder and roll man and has mellowed out in his time with the rockets and hawks (his attitude got better). I think he will be the missing piece we need along with the improvement of our young guys (starting 5 would be IT Bradley Crowder Horford Howard, which imo is a contender with a Smart Fultz Brown Olynyk Zizic 2nd unit). I mean we would be dominating teams inside while having good perimeter defenders to wear other teams' perimeter players down.

That starting 5 is far from contender. If you replace Jae with Hayward, then we can talk.

You're underestimating the mismatch that Al and Dwight would give to Cleveland (Love and TT) and Golden State (Green and Zaza) while still being able to keep their perimeter players in check with the improvements of Smart and Brown and the arrival of Fultz. This team made the ECF and managed to win a game with their star injured. It's not like we're adding Tuckers and Ibakas like Toronto, we're adding a legit star big (although he's declining) that can pose as a big matchup problem to contenders

[Irish Stew]

Can you really miss in trading a 2nd for Dwight, especially if you're the Celtics right now?

My concern stems from salary cap implications. Doesn't Dwight make about as much as Horford? If we could field a team that had IT-Smart(or Fultz/Brown)-Hayward-Horford-Dwight, I'm all for it.

I don't know if it's possible. I'd say that team matches up quite well vs Cleveland though.

Hayward and Howard would be about $54 million total against the cap. It's either one or the other, not both unless you are willing to move a bunch of core players for Howard which IMO wouldn't make sense.

[Celtics4ever]

Can you really miss in trading a 2nd for Dwight, especially if you're the Celtics right now?

Yes, he does not fit our system, can't spread the floor and would clog the lanes.

[jbpats]

Can you really miss in trading a 2nd for Dwight, especially if you're the Celtics right now?

Yes, he does not fit our system, can't spread the floor and would clog the lanes.

Howards name comes up around here like clockwork every off season and before the trade deadline.
Howard is a shell of himself, he is overpaid and underperforms. He has not been significant in the NBA since he played for Orlando OVER 5 YEARS AGO. Enough with Dwight Howard please.

[GreenCoffeeBean]

Can you really miss in trading a 2nd for Dwight, especially if you're the Celtics right now?

Yes, he does not fit our system, can't spread the floor and would clog the lanes.

Howards name comes up around here like clockwork every off season and before the trade deadline.
Howard is a shell of himself, he is overpaid and underperforms. He has not been significant in the NBA since he played for Orlando OVER 5 YEARS AGO. Enough with Dwight Howard please.

TP. I feel like people forget how he quit on his Magic teams in the playoffs anytime the opposing team made life complicated for him. He's not a winner.

[PaulAllen]

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