Is Jaylen Brown Untouchable?

[droopdog7]

He's not untouchable.  There are only a few players even possibly available at the trade deadline who he would be worth trading for, however.

In my mind, in order of least wanting to trade to most willing to trade (in terms of prospects and picks only) it goes:

2017 Brooklyn
Brown
2018 Brooklyn
Zizic
Yab
2019 Memphis
2018 Celtics
Rozier
2019 Celtics
2019 Clippers
Jackson
Nader
2017 Minny 2nd rounder
All other second rounders

(Note: I consider neither Smart nor Olynyk prospects at this point -- they're young NBA rotation/starter type players. They'll both likely get better, but their value also includes current usefulness in addition to projection.  Young and Mickey are just flotsam.)

Ha ha.  See my post right above this one.  Basically, this goes almost perfectly from most to least value.  You guys are hilarious.  Might as well not even think about trades then.

[mef730]

He's not untouchable.  There are only a few players even possibly available at the trade deadline who he would be worth trading for, however.

In my mind, in order of least wanting to trade to most willing to trade (in terms of prospects and picks only) it goes:

2017 Brooklyn
Brown
2018 Brooklyn
Zizic
Yab
2019 Memphis
2018 Celtics
Rozier
2019 Celtics
2019 Clippers
Jackson
Nader
2017 Minny 2nd rounder
All other second rounders

(Note: I consider neither Smart nor Olynyk prospects at this point -- they're young NBA rotation/starter type players. They'll both likely get better, but their value also includes current usefulness in addition to projection.  Young and Mickey are just flotsam.)

Anyone else think that Clippers pick in 2019 is a major wild card? Is it protected?

Clippers only have Jordan, Rivers, and Brice Johnson signed through 2019 (first two have player options). What if CP3 decided LA hasn't worked out and he heads somewhere else? What if Blake signs a big deal elsewhere to start over? If those both happen they will look like the 2016-17 Heat. Even if one leave and they can't adequately replace them that pick could drop.

Protected big-time. The interesting one is the Memphis pick. Looks like they will convey to Denver, which means that we get 2019 (protected 1-8); If 1-8, go to 2020 (protected 1-6); If 1-6, go to 2021 (not protected).

Not likely that this team turns into the Lakers but, if they do, 2021 could be huge.

Mike

[saltlover]

He's not untouchable.  There are only a few players even possibly available at the trade deadline who he would be worth trading for, however.

In my mind, in order of least wanting to trade to most willing to trade (in terms of prospects and picks only) it goes:

2017 Brooklyn
Brown
2018 Brooklyn
Zizic
Yab
2019 Memphis
2018 Celtics
Rozier
2019 Celtics
2019 Clippers
Jackson
Nader
2017 Minny 2nd rounder
All other second rounders

(Note: I consider neither Smart nor Olynyk prospects at this point -- they're young NBA rotation/starter type players. They'll both likely get better, but their value also includes current usefulness in addition to projection.  Young and Mickey are just flotsam.)

Ha ha.  See my post right above this one.  Basically, this goes almost perfectly from most to least value.  You guys are hilarious.  Might as well not even think about trades then.

What are you talking about?  All I've said is that there are few trades Jaylen Brown should be included in, and implied by my list that other assets have less value and are therefore more likely to be traded.  This is not because Ainge will rip off Chicago and get Butler for the Memphis and Clipper picks.  This is because the most likely trades are for rotation upgrades on expiring deals.  Jaylen Brown is not getting traded for Ibaka, for instance.  Nor is he getting traded for Nerlens Noel.

In both words and actions, Ainge has shown that he won't trade top long-term assets for short-term gains.  Frankly, your response to me only makes sense if you didn't actually bother to read my post.

[CoachBo]

He's not untouchable.  There are only a few players even possibly available at the trade deadline who he would be worth trading for, however.

In my mind, in order of least wanting to trade to most willing to trade (in terms of prospects and picks only) it goes:

2017 Brooklyn
Brown
2018 Brooklyn
Zizic
Yab
2019 Memphis
2018 Celtics
Rozier
2019 Celtics
2019 Clippers
Jackson
Nader
2017 Minny 2nd rounder
All other second rounders

(Note: I consider neither Smart nor Olynyk prospects at this point -- they're young NBA rotation/starter type players. They'll both likely get better, but their value also includes current usefulness in addition to projection.  Young and Mickey are just flotsam.)

Ha ha.  See my post right above this one.  Basically, this goes almost perfectly from most to least value.  You guys are hilarious.  Might as well not even think about trades then.

Sorry I missed this. I was in Springfield, dusting off a spot for Jaylen Brown in the HOF.

[max215]

I'm not eager to give him up, but he's far from untouchable.

[86MaxwellSmart]

Keep him for sure...His confidence and aggressiveness keeps growing each game.

He's barely 20 years old--and he's reminding me of a Reggie Lewis/Dominique Wilkins combo.
Pretty sure Danny and Brad value him about as high as the two BK picks. He is now a known commodity...The picks are not.

[droopdog7]

He's not untouchable.  There are only a few players even possibly available at the trade deadline who he would be worth trading for, however.

In my mind, in order of least wanting to trade to most willing to trade (in terms of prospects and picks only) it goes:

2017 Brooklyn
Brown
2018 Brooklyn
Zizic
Yab
2019 Memphis
2018 Celtics
Rozier
2019 Celtics
2019 Clippers
Jackson
Nader
2017 Minny 2nd rounder
All other second rounders

(Note: I consider neither Smart nor Olynyk prospects at this point -- they're young NBA rotation/starter type players. They'll both likely get better, but their value also includes current usefulness in addition to projection.  Young and Mickey are just flotsam.)

Ha ha.  See my post right above this one.  Basically, this goes almost perfectly from most to least value.  You guys are hilarious.  Might as well not even think about trades then.

What are you talking about?  All I've said is that there are few trades Jaylen Brown should be included in, and implied by my list that other assets have less value and are therefore more likely to be traded.  This is not because Ainge will rip off Chicago and get Butler for the Memphis and Clipper picks.  This is because the most likely trades are for rotation upgrades on expiring deals.  Jaylen Brown is not getting traded for Ibaka, for instance.  Nor is he getting traded for Nerlens Noel.

In both words and actions, Ainge has shown that he won't trade top long-term assets for short-term gains.  Frankly, your response to me only makes sense if you didn't actually bother to read my post.

This is what I'm talking about.  Fans think that less valuable = more likely to get traded because fans never want to trade anything of value.  Only things that suck.

[saltlover]

He's not untouchable.  There are only a few players even possibly available at the trade deadline who he would be worth trading for, however.

In my mind, in order of least wanting to trade to most willing to trade (in terms of prospects and picks only) it goes:

2017 Brooklyn
Brown
2018 Brooklyn
Zizic
Yab
2019 Memphis
2018 Celtics
Rozier
2019 Celtics
2019 Clippers
Jackson
Nader
2017 Minny 2nd rounder
All other second rounders

(Note: I consider neither Smart nor Olynyk prospects at this point -- they're young NBA rotation/starter type players. They'll both likely get better, but their value also includes current usefulness in addition to projection.  Young and Mickey are just flotsam.)

Ha ha.  See my post right above this one.  Basically, this goes almost perfectly from most to least value.  You guys are hilarious.  Might as well not even think about trades then.

What are you talking about?  All I've said is that there are few trades Jaylen Brown should be included in, and implied by my list that other assets have less value and are therefore more likely to be traded.  This is not because Ainge will rip off Chicago and get Butler for the Memphis and Clipper picks.  This is because the most likely trades are for rotation upgrades on expiring deals.  Jaylen Brown is not getting traded for Ibaka, for instance.  Nor is he getting traded for Nerlens Noel.

In both words and actions, Ainge has shown that he won't trade top long-term assets for short-term gains.  Frankly, your response to me only makes sense if you didn't actually bother to read my post.

This is what I'm talking about.  Fans think that less valuable = more likely to get traded because fans never want to trade anything of value.  Only things that suck.

Except two sentences later I say exactly what I mean, and yet again you don't read it.  Unless you think that Jaylen Brown for Ibaka is reasonable and what we should expect, in which case, come out and directly say it instead of trying to insult my and other posters' intelligence.

[hwangjini_1]

geez, salty, you have far more patience than i do. 

[vjcsmoke]

We don't know what we have so far in JB so it's better to keep him and let him grow.  If he's involved in a trade package, it better be for a franchise player like for example Anthony Davis, KAT, etc.

Those kinds of players generally don't move, so JB is pretty close to untouchable unless the right deal comes along.  DA is a shrewd GM.  He makes winning trades all the time.  So if he trades JB it would be for a very high value target.

If we acquire Butler I hope we can do it while keeping Brown, as I believe he would be a good mentor for JB.  They have even worked out together in the offseason.

[SuddenFame]

Of course not.  I like what he's shown so far, but If the price for Jimmy Butler was just Amir + Jaylen + next year's Brooklyn pick, I'd put him on a bus immediately.

Thank god you're not the gm

[slightly biased bias fan]

No one on the Celtics is untouchable, there is essentially only 4-5 players in the league that are untouchable.

[iadera]

Yes he is untouchable. The best rookie in his class so far. I don't see a single reason for him to be moved. And his only 19. If we have to, rather move Smart or AB, because Jaylen is taking huge steps towards being an All Star one day.

[Kuberski33]

I wouldn't trade him.  He's got a game that no one else on this team has - and one they need. His work ethic is supposedly excellent, he's smart, athletic and isn't done growing yet.  No way I would deal him. Only question to me is going to be his shot but it looks to me like it's going to improve over time.