Celtics in on Butler negotiations (Via CBS)

[tarheelsxxiii]

Butler is not worth that much. Him alone is not even going to do it for #3 + Decent player + other decent player + Ainge's Chipotle bowl. Are you serious? We got 17 banners guys, there's no need for us to be this desperate.

I say Dunn will be better than butler. I for one hope we trade 3 for a big with Phily.

It's certainly a possibility - I like Dunn a lot, I think he has a ton of potential. 

That said, Butler at 26 is already a two time All-Star and three time All-Defensive-Team selection.  It's by no means a given that Dunn will ever become as good as Butler - though it's not out of the question.

Butler is a top 2-3 SG in this league. That's pretty good.

This is my primary issue, spike. Do you really want to trade Dunn for Okafor? I'm not sure I do...

[The Oracle]

Better shooter- As of right now- Bradley.  At the same age- Call it a draw.

Nothing is indicative that Marcus will become a good shooter, Oracle, better check your crystal ball.   We have all seen him get hot and next game be dead cold.

You need to get your reading glasses because I never said he would.  The poster I quoted used an extremely small sample to try and suggest Bradley was always a good shooter which is just flat wrong.  It took him 4 years to get his range out to above the break 3's.  His shot charts were barf inducing back then.  Smart did shoot average numbers from 3 on volume as a rookie though and there is no reason to believe he will not do so or better again.  To write him off after witnessing many others greatly improve is crazy.

* Bradley in his second season shot 40.7% from three - Smart hasn't even managed 35% in his first two seasons. 

* Bradley in his second year shot 52.5% from 10-16 feet and shot 40% on two's outside of 16 feet.  Smart's career highs from those areas so far are 38% and 31%, respectively.

* Bradley shot 49% from the field in his second year - Smart has yet to break the 37% mark.

You also underrate Bradley's role in his second year.  He replaced Ray Allen as the starting SG for this team due to injury, and when Ray came back the team played so well with Bradley out there that Doc let him keep the starting spot.  Bradley could always defend, it was his ability to his shots (from midrange and from three) as well as defend that earned him the right to keep that starting spot - which he's held every year since.  Smart had the starting PG s[pt and lost it,

Smart shot poorly from three as a rookie.  He shot poorly from three in his second year.  He shot poorly from three in summer league.  He shot poorly from three in college.  He's shot poorly from midrange.  Even his free throw shooting has been up and down.  There's nothing on display to suggest he'll ever be as good a shooter as Bradley.

You handpicked Bradley's 2nd year in which he made all of 22 3's.  Lets get a more comparable sample.  Below are Bradley's 1st 3 years combined, compared to Smart's and Devin Booker's rookie years.   Backcourt heaves are excluded.
                 
                  3PA   3P%
Bradley  62-184  33.7%
Smart    91-268  34.0%
Booker   99-288  34.4%

To write off Smart as a shooter after that rookie year (which was not in any way poor contrary to your comment above) is nonsensical.  If you do you must also write off Bradley, Booker and you might as well write off Jimmy Butler because he is a career 32.8% 3pt. shooter. 

[rollie mass]

both smarts rookie year and 2nd year both jerebko or kelly would leave it up to marcus to take shots with clock winding down-rookie year smart suffered high ankle sprain and 2nd year two catastrophic injuries dislocation of fingers and the knee- so 2nd year stats really screwed up with comeback time on both injuries,then i believe smart suffered from having to play a series of games guarding the best guards in league and crowder going down putting more pressure on smart defensively--
avery bradley is best defencive guard in league and 15ps a game -get us a rim protector and watch everybodies point avg go up