Draymond Green suspended from game 5

[Endless Paradise]

I'm not sure why people are arguing that this is a make-up for him not being suspended against OKC. He hit his flagrant foul limit. He was suspended for that, not specifically for hitting LeBron in the nuts. If he hadn't committed any prior flagrant fouls, he wouldn't have been suspended as he wouldn't have hit the point limit.

Because it wasn't a flagrant foul. Shoulda been a tech.

Probably would've had a better shot of getting a tech if he didn't make it a habit.

[PhoSita]

I mean, sure. I agree that he had it coming based on past behavior. But if the NBA wants to claim they are applying the rules to this specific situation only, I don't think it's fair to call that a flagrant.

[Moranis]

Green was given a flagrant for unnecessary contact in a non-basketball move. 

Green was being fouled and waved his arm at the guy fouling him.  If that's a flagrant foul, every single game in the NBA would have to be stopped before halftime because every single player has been ejected.

There's no way that's a flagrant foul in that situation if Green flails at Stephen Adams.  And there's no way it's only a flagrant one is Green kicks LeBron square in the nuts.

Mike

except Green wasn't being fouled when he committed the flagrant.  He was already on the ground and James was walking over him (correctly given a technical for that taunt).  Green stood up into James and then swung his arm twice, once hitting James in the junk and once missing entirely.  That is pretty obviously a flagrant foul

1.  I am unaware of any rule that says you aren't allowed to try and get up when you've been knocked down.  LeBron knocked Green down and then stepped over him as Green was trying to get up.  Green has no obligation to just lie there.

2.  Green didn't "swing" his arm at Lebron.  He flicked it at him in a backhand motion, like you were going to tap someone to get their attention.  When he did it the first time, it was as he was getting up and I don't think anyone can say if he meant to hit LeBron in the leg, butt, back or what have you.

3.  If that is a flagrant foul, then so is EVERY SINGLE TIME SOMEONE GETS SHOVED AFTER HARD CONTACT.

4.  No one should feel sorry for Green or the Warriors because he should have gotten a flagrant 2 and a suspension after blasting Adams in the junk, but no one should pretend this is something it isn't.  Green is getting suspended because LeBron is involved and the Warriors are up 3-1 and the league doesn't think his suspension will unduly benefit the Cavs.  If Green had done it to J.R. Smith and the series were tied 2-2, it would have been nothing more than a double technical.

Mike

I don't know how you can watch the video and not conclude that Green intentionally hit James in the groin and then swings at him again.

Go watch the video.

Green is bent over and it's not even clear if he's looking at Lebron when he snaps out his arm.  From the position of his body, it's literally the only thing he can do in the moment to try and smack at James.  And then he repeats the same exact motion when he's standing up.

The NBA said it could not determine Green's intent when he tried to punt Adams' genitalia into the rafters.  How can it possibly say it knows exactly what was in Green's mind this time?  Was he trying to smack LeBron?  Sure, and that's a technical not a flagrant foul.

Mike

so you admit he swung at James and you admit he hit James.  I'm not sure what you are arguing.  Under the definition of a flagrant, it fits.  It could have also been a technical, but it wasn't an incorrect call to call it a flagrant under the actual definition of a flagrant foul.