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Would you take the deal?

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Re: Would you take this trade?
« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2016, 02:59:47 PM »

Offline Hemingway

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Anyone who wouldn't take this offer is in fantasy town. What percent of top picks have turned out as good as dmc or melo? The chances you could field a team better than:

Dmc/ko
Melo/sully
Crowder
Ab/smart
It/turner

In the next 5 years with picks is tiny. I made this trade as a pie in the sky, best case scenario within reason.

Re: Would you take this trade?
« Reply #16 on: January 10, 2016, 10:42:13 AM »

Offline Moranis

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I'd take it but the Kings & Knicks obviously wouldn't.
Depends.  I mean half our picks could look like this

Kings - Amir, Hunter, Mickey, 1st's (2016 BKN, 2016 MIN, 2018 BOS, 2018 MEM), 2nd's (2016 PHI, 2016 CLE, 2017 BOS)
Knicks - Lee, Young, Rozier, 1st's (2016 BOS, 2016 DAL, 2018 BKN), 2nd's (2016 BOS, 2016 MIA, 2017 PHI, 2018 BKN)

I don't see those as terrible offers for the Kings or Knicks in those trades if they elect to move on from their stars.

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this is how far the picks would do out and what we keep.

Top picks are great but if we made a deal like this we could sign guys that were top picks with the cap going up for 2 years.

What about 2017 Nets pick swap?
Can't trade that pick as in the idea I had Boston was trading its 16 and 18 picks and thus must keep its 17 pick (which is the pick swap with BKN).
that's pretty steep for both deals in terms of picks.  only first rounder left is the Nets swap left for 2017 until we get to the 2019 draft.   Not thrilled with having to rely on free agency to fill out the roster which will be a lot more expensive than cost-controlled rookie deals and hamstring us a bit that way. 

as for the idea of signing guys that were top picks --> how?  unless they're guys who were top picks in the 90's.  No top pick worth anything would take a cut-rate deal to sign here.  They'll take the bigger money offered elsewhere if they're a top pick. 

I do think the 8-man rotation would be pretty solid.  I don't see Zeller mentioned so I guess we'd keep him to backup DMC which would be a good move. 
I'm not against the resulting roster, just concerned we're painted into a corner a bit when it comes to filling out the roster with quality players without any draft picks or depth to offer in trades (or using the picks in the draft).  I just recall the difficulties Danny had drawing good FA's during the KG/PP/Ray era with limited funds.  Any injury to Melo or DMC and that team is toast.
who said anything about free agency post trade Boston would look something like this

C - DMC, Zeller
PF - Sully, KO, Jerekbo
SF - Melo, Crowder
SG - Bradley, Turner
PG - Thomas, Smart

That is a pretty solid 11 man rotation.  Add in some vets, some DL guys with potential, or guys that get cut (Wroten for example) for the deep bench and you are set. 
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Starters - Luka, JB, Lebron, Wemby, Shaq
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Re: Would you take this trade?
« Reply #17 on: January 10, 2016, 01:51:20 PM »

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Or start Crowder and Melo and bring Sully off the bench

Re: Would you take this trade?
« Reply #18 on: January 10, 2016, 04:26:50 PM »

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Heck yeah I'd do that.

Only real concern is Melo's age, but I think he'll age well like Pierce has. We should also have room for a max FA, I think?

Re: Would you take this trade?
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2016, 04:59:16 PM »

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I'd take it but the Kings & Knicks obviously wouldn't.
Depends.  I mean half our picks could look like this

Kings - Amir, Hunter, Mickey, 1st's (2016 BKN, 2016 MIN, 2018 BOS, 2018 MEM), 2nd's (2016 PHI, 2016 CLE, 2017 BOS)
Knicks - Lee, Young, Rozier, 1st's (2016 BOS, 2016 DAL, 2018 BKN), 2nd's (2016 BOS, 2016 MIA, 2017 PHI, 2018 BKN)

I don't see those as terrible offers for the Kings or Knicks in those trades if they elect to move on from their stars.

@slamtheking
this is how far the picks would do out and what we keep.

Top picks are great but if we made a deal like this we could sign guys that were top picks with the cap going up for 2 years.

What about 2017 Nets pick swap?
Can't trade that pick as in the idea I had Boston was trading its 16 and 18 picks and thus must keep its 17 pick (which is the pick swap with BKN).
that's pretty steep for both deals in terms of picks.  only first rounder left is the Nets swap left for 2017 until we get to the 2019 draft.   Not thrilled with having to rely on free agency to fill out the roster which will be a lot more expensive than cost-controlled rookie deals and hamstring us a bit that way. 

as for the idea of signing guys that were top picks --> how?  unless they're guys who were top picks in the 90's.  No top pick worth anything would take a cut-rate deal to sign here.  They'll take the bigger money offered elsewhere if they're a top pick. 

I do think the 8-man rotation would be pretty solid.  I don't see Zeller mentioned so I guess we'd keep him to backup DMC which would be a good move. 
I'm not against the resulting roster, just concerned we're painted into a corner a bit when it comes to filling out the roster with quality players without any draft picks or depth to offer in trades (or using the picks in the draft).  I just recall the difficulties Danny had drawing good FA's during the KG/PP/Ray era with limited funds.  Any injury to Melo or DMC and that team is toast.
who said anything about free agency post trade Boston would look something like this

C - DMC, Zeller
PF - Sully, KO, Jerekbo
SF - Melo, Crowder
SG - Bradley, Turner
PG - Thomas, Smart

That is a pretty solid 11 man rotation.  Add in some vets, some DL guys with potential, or guys that get cut (Wroten for example) for the deep bench and you are set. 
OK, that's a fuller picture than what was originally posted.  I'm not 100% up on the cap with those 2 guys coming in but I guess the assumption is there's enough % to resign Turner to something agreeable.

I'd target another shooter for the backcourt and a solid defensive 4/5 for the bench and I think that line-up could give any other team fits. 

Re: Would you take this trade?
« Reply #20 on: January 11, 2016, 10:06:55 AM »

Offline Hemingway

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There would be enought to sign any player in the nba that wanted to join that team posted above.