Author Topic: It might be worth it to us to really overpay in a deadline trade for a star.  (Read 6116 times)

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Offline Ilikesports17

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I think this is more than a technicality, but how is it possible to "overpay" if it turns out to be "worth it"? Are people just using "overpay" as a substitute for "taking a risk"?
Not if you define overpaying as paying greater than market value.

For example, if Melo were to hit the block hed be worth more to us than his market value would be I think.

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I think this is more than a technicality, but how is it possible to "overpay" if it turns out to be "worth it"? Are people just using "overpay" as a substitute for "taking a risk"?
Not if you define overpaying as paying greater than market value.

For example, if Melo were to hit the block hed be worth more to us than his market value would be I think.

But what the Celtics would give up would be the market value. Teams aren't going to trade a player to the Celtics just because the Celtics showed a real interest and should be rewarded for their offer. They'll make the trade if the Celtics offer is the best and works for them. The best offer is part of the market. And if the star is worth that trade to the Celtics, it isn't an overpay. It's only an overpay if it turns out to not be worth it.

I think the question really is, should the Celtics take the risk of trading a lot of value for a star player at the deadline?

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The idea, I think, is to be able to put together TWO deals for stars, built around the necessary high end assets.

Thinking of swing for both Ray Allen (deal around the #5 pick) and KG (deal based on Big Al and GGreen as top prospects plus some picks).

How would the pieces line up with what we have now?  We assume the 2016 Nets pick will be a strong enough to headline a deal for a star. Hopefully it is.

Not sure which 2-3 of our young players would need to be bundled.  Smart, Sully, and Olynyk might do it. 

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Overpaying seems to be inevitable. We have tons of draft picks for the upcoming draft and we can't afford to draft 4-5 rookies at the same time.

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I think this is more than a technicality, but how is it possible to "overpay" if it turns out to be "worth it"? Are people just using "overpay" as a substitute for "taking a risk"?
Not if you define overpaying as paying greater than market value.

For example, if Melo were to hit the block hed be worth more to us than his market value would be I think.
Melo? Not a good fit in Stevens' system. Not worth it. That is a Nets type move.

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I would be very hesitant to overpay for someone like Melo or Howard. The only Free Agent really moving the needle next offseason will be Durant and acquiring a guy like Melo, Howard or even DMC will give you an outside shot at him at best. If you don“t land Durant, you have blown future assets to become better now but without any chance at contending. Seems like a move to mediocrity to me. Teams like the Spurs, Cavs and Warriors are so far ahead of the Celtics at the moment, trading or signing disgruntled or aging tier2 stars will not change that. I would prefer to stay patient.
I guess it comes down to if you think adding DMC, Melo or Howard for Lee and picks would make us contending right now or not. You seem to think it wouldn't, I think it would. With DMC for example we would probably have a 20 percent shot at a title this year. That is contending. We'd probably also have a 50 percent shot of adding a rich chaser buy out that would give us an extra few percent shot at a title.
DMC is the only there that could raise us significantly. I would trade a lot of assets for him. No-brainer that you trade for DMC if he has a multi-year deal since you can always flip him if it is a poor fit.

Howard is a major adjustment to our offense while being of inconsistent health. I'm sure his impact would be felt on defense, but that doesn't necessarily mean more wins.

Melo can help a lot if he doesn't try to play like a superstar. His version of superstar won't make your team great. But if he uses his skill set within a system, he could contribute a lot. I am wary of players who aren't comfortable unless they take a certain number of shots, even if they are bad shots that don't help the team.