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Re: Do you think Marcus Smart will get the Rondo treatment?
« Reply #30 on: August 11, 2014, 01:48:49 PM »

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I was just thinking this. Rondo is essentially the 3rd best pg in the history of the club, but a lot of people act like he's Toine or something.

And it occurred to me at the moment if you don't like Rondo you pretty much MUST dislike Smart, right?

Smart maaayyy be a better defender. Maybe.

He may very well not be as good a shooter. Especially if his summer is any indication.

He won't be a better playmaker/passer.

He probably won't be as good a rebounder.

He could be a 4 time all star, make an all  NBA 3rd team, be a 4 time defensive teamer by age 28, do it all at a reasonable salary, and it just won't matter to some, right?

Rondo was the NBA steals leader in 2010. He was the NBA assists leader in two years.

So essentially no matter what we can pretty much expect an anti-Smart group from day one. That's weird.

No offense but I'm tired of the Rondo apologists. The fact is this city wants to think of him as a star player. Fine then. Prove it! He couldn't prove it at all, his one shining moment that is pointed out on a daily basis is how he played against Philadelphia in a series the Celtics were favored in. Star players in the league are your KD's, King James, Melo, etc...then you have another tier of those emerging stars like Cousins and Wall then you have everyone else. Rondo is a very good role player on a title contending squad. He would fit in perfectly on a team like Houston that could use another piece to replace Lin as a solid point guard. But let's all stop acting like he's a star in the league please.

Smart is a bust. He won't even have as good of a career as Rondo. He is Marcus Banks 2.0. That coin flip is going to haunt the Celtics for decades when Exum and his unlimited potential is making multiple all star games. Awful. Randle will have a good career too probably. Danny couldn't resist taking the clone of Marcus Banks.

This must be one of the most negative and pessimistic posts I have ever seen on CelticsBlog. Are we even watching the same team? How off can you be on your evaluation of players? Carmelo? What the hell has that guy done in the playoffs in comparison to Rondo? You aren't being cynical or realistic. Just downright negative for the sake of negativity.

Calling Smart a clone of Banks has got to be one of the most lazy comparisons I have ever seen.

Re: Do you think Marcus Smart will get the Rondo treatment?
« Reply #31 on: August 11, 2014, 01:56:09 PM »

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I almost replied to that post but it was too silly ^.  Why waste my time.
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Re: Do you think Marcus Smart will get the Rondo treatment?
« Reply #32 on: August 11, 2014, 02:19:12 PM »

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I'm not sure anyone can be an big as a lightening rod on these boards as Rondo.  Most polarizing figure I've seen on here...by far.   The crazies come out of the woodwork on both ends when it comes to Rondo.

Smart will probably be treated more along the lines of AB on here.  I also think he's going to surprised some people with his play this season.  The comparision to Marcus Banks is just a flat-out lazy one, at best.
It blows my mind that a higher percentage of Celticsbloggers defended the pathetic Rasheed Wallace.  Amazing.

I'll defend Sheed for his play in the playoffs that year. Guy coasted through the regular season, for sure, but he busted his ass when the games mattered.

I also think Rondo's a great player, but he has the unfortunate distinction of being our best player (which means that we're all highly tuned into his play during the regular season) at a saturated position (which means that other players are likely to be on an even footing with him in real life, compounded by the fact that a majority of posters don't watch all 82 games of someone like, say, Chris Paul).
He had a couple nice moments in the playoffs but he averaged 6pts and 3 rebounds on 41% fg% over the entire playoffs.  Not sure how that can make Rasheed a hero to the majority here, while Kevin Love is considered a scrub by many for averaging around 26, 12, and 4 while posting a higher PER than Bird ever posted.  Sorry I got us off topic.

Sheed was our only capable starting center during a series that was one set of competent referees away from Banner 18. Kevin Love ain't got nothin' to do with it, as it were -- except that he's never seen the floor in a meaningful NBA game, ever.

Also, not worth all of our assets =/= scrub.
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Re: Do you think Marcus Smart will get the Rondo treatment?
« Reply #33 on: August 11, 2014, 02:32:31 PM »

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Life is a lot about believing In yourself and confidence to manage and hone your gifts.

Based on what I've seen so far

Marcus will succeed .

Re: Do you think Marcus Smart will get the Rondo treatment?
« Reply #34 on: August 11, 2014, 05:12:43 PM »

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I'm not sure anyone can be an big as a lightening rod on these boards as Rondo.  Most polarizing figure I've seen on here...by far.   The crazies come out of the woodwork on both ends when it comes to Rondo.

Smart will probably be treated more along the lines of AB on here.  I also think he's going to surprised some people with his play this season.  The comparision to Marcus Banks is just a flat-out lazy one, at best.
It blows my mind that a higher percentage of Celticsbloggers defended the pathetic Rasheed Wallace.  Amazing.

I'll defend Sheed for his play in the playoffs that year. Guy coasted through the regular season, for sure, but he busted his ass when the games mattered.

I also think Rondo's a great player, but he has the unfortunate distinction of being our best player (which means that we're all highly tuned into his play during the regular season) at a saturated position (which means that other players are likely to be on an even footing with him in real life, compounded by the fact that a majority of posters don't watch all 82 games of someone like, say, Chris Paul).
He had a couple nice moments in the playoffs but he averaged 6pts and 3 rebounds on 41% fg% over the entire playoffs.  Not sure how that can make Rasheed a hero to the majority here, while Kevin Love is considered a scrub by many for averaging around 26, 12, and 4 while posting a higher PER than Bird ever posted.  Sorry I got us off topic.

^I'm with you regarding Sheed. We didn't really have any better options, but god did he suck for the most part. I knew that it was a bad pickup the moment Ainge got him.

Re: Do you think Marcus Smart will get the Rondo treatment?
« Reply #35 on: August 11, 2014, 05:25:02 PM »

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And I bet you would've known that he was exactly the guy they needed if we'd won game 7, too.
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Re: Do you think Marcus Smart will get the Rondo treatment?
« Reply #36 on: August 11, 2014, 05:28:11 PM »

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And I bet you would've known that he was exactly the guy they needed if we'd won game 7, too.

Sheed wasn't a bum he just couldn't handle playing that many minutes.  He was getting beat up in general as the playoffs went on too.  I remember watching the game you could tell he didn't have it.  The Lakers were too strong inside (and sure the refs didn't help).
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Re: Do you think Marcus Smart will get the Rondo treatment?
« Reply #37 on: August 11, 2014, 10:11:01 PM »

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No offense but I'm tired of the Rondo apologists. The fact is this city wants to think of him as a star player. Fine then. Prove it! He couldn't prove it at all, his one shining moment that is pointed out on a daily basis is how he played against Philadelphia in a series the Celtics were favored in.



The Philadelphia series in 2012 was Rondo's sixth best all time playoff series.  He was better in 2010 against the Cavs, in 2009 against the Bulls, in 2012 against the Heat, in 2011 against the Knicks, and again in 2012 against the Hawks.

That Philadelphia series was just one of many shining playoff moments for Rajon Rondo. 
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Re: Do you think Marcus Smart will get the Rondo treatment?
« Reply #38 on: August 11, 2014, 10:42:40 PM »

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I'm not sure anyone can be an big as a lightening rod on these boards as Rondo.  Most polarizing figure I've seen on here...by far.   The crazies come out of the woodwork on both ends when it comes to Rondo.

Smart will probably be treated more along the lines of AB on here. I also think he's going to surprise some people with his play this season.  The comparision to Marcus Banks is just a flat-out lazy one, at best.

I agree with this. Just to expand, Smart will most likely display tenacious defense that endears him to many on here a la Bradley. Once he starts to expand his game and play more, however, I'm wondering if people will start to criticize him, like they did with Bradley. Will people say, "Smart's not the 100% all the time defender that he used to be when he played 1/3 of the minutes he does now" or "Smart is shooting a lot more than he used to"? that remains to be seen.

Now, I do recognize that Smart is supposed to be more talented than Bradley (stronger, better finisher, better ball handler, etc), and Bradley does deserve some of the critique (ie shoots a lot of long 2s, below-average finisher, etc.). I'm actually not too big a a fan of Bradley, but that's besides the point. However, I'm interested to see if Smart will gain and subsequently lose proponents as he goes from rookie with tenacious defense to (hopefully) starter with slightly less tenacious defense.