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Re: NBA.com Rookie of the year - Marcus Smart Diss....
« Reply #15 on: July 20, 2014, 11:02:47 AM »

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Now that the Lakers got Boozer, Randle should drop out of the top 10 on this list as well.

Re: NBA.com Rookie of the year - Marcus Smart Diss....
« Reply #16 on: July 20, 2014, 11:04:54 AM »

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There is some fire about him that I like a lot.  I have a feeling he's going to prove everyone wrong.

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Re: NBA.com Rookie of the year - Marcus Smart Diss....
« Reply #17 on: July 20, 2014, 11:11:08 AM »

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For the record - not impressed by Randle.

I am actually calling Zach Lavine a dark horse candidate. I was sure he is a Gerald Green 2.0 (athletic freak but can't play) but he has seems incredibly smooth and confident out there.

I also like TJ Warren a lot. He is playing "old school" basketball and looks a little like (pre injury) Danny Granger...

Re: NBA.com Rookie of the year - Marcus Smart Diss....
« Reply #18 on: July 20, 2014, 11:15:03 AM »

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Barring trades or injury, I can't see Smart playing big minutes this season, which drops him out of contention for ROY. I mean, our best player is Rondo who plays the same position as him, and our biggest non-rookie acquisition so far this offseason is Avery Bradley, who fills a role similar to Smart's.

Smart will be splitting time with Pressey and Thornton, which will prevent him from putting up gaudy numbers. Meanwhile, a guy like Parker or Noel will be given heavy minutes from the get-go and their teams will live and die with their successes/mistakes.

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Re: NBA.com Rookie of the year - Marcus Smart Diss....
« Reply #19 on: July 20, 2014, 11:23:19 AM »

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When did not putting a projected backup PG, with shooting issues, in contention for ROY become, in any way, disrespectful?


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Re: NBA.com Rookie of the year - Marcus Smart Diss....
« Reply #20 on: July 20, 2014, 11:27:08 AM »

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I feel Pressy is a really great player for a 5"8 guy who can't shoot the side of a barn. I like his passing and intensity but he should not be playing in the NBA.

The only way we are playing Thornton is if we are trying to pump and dump him. He is not a part of this team's future....

I can see Smart play SG near Rondo, esp. if his shot improves even a little. With his mass and long arms he can shut down guys 6" taller than him (see him play Exum, Kyle Anderson, Wiggins etc.). He is best with the ball in his hands and I see him as a better match for Bradely than Rondo (since they can switch defensive positions).

Avery is a menace for opponent PG but cannot deal with power SGs. So I can see Rondo, Avery and Smart share the back court about equally...

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« Reply #21 on: July 20, 2014, 11:32:16 AM »

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Marcus Smart will be a top 5 rookie this year, and that's without taking into account whether he improves his shooting. He impacts way too much of the game in other areas. I wish ball deflections showed up on a stat sheet, because he is so active and got his hands on so many passes on the perimeter leading to steals for others.

I do think he wont be as bad of a shooter as he was in the summer league. It looked like to me he was working on his pro-3 point shot the most this summer and was launching a lot of threes he probably shouldn't have. He'll have better discipline in the regular season, and I expect him to attack the basket more.

There were a lot of rookies who struggled with their shot this summer as well.
He does get a ton of ball deflections. I think being on the USA select team will also help him get prepared fro the season. People forget that the season does not start for another 3 months. He has plenty of time to work on the things he did wrong in summer league.

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« Reply #22 on: July 20, 2014, 11:32:58 AM »

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Marcus Smart will be a top 5 rookie this year, and that's without taking into account whether he improves his shooting. He impacts way too much of the game in other areas. I wish ball deflections showed up on a stat sheet, because he is so active and got his hands on so many passes on the perimeter leading to steals for others.

I do think he wont be as bad of a shooter as he was in the summer league. It looked like to me he was working on his pro-3 point shot the most this summer and was launching a lot of threes he probably shouldn't have. He'll have better discipline in the regular season, and I expect him to attack the basket more.

There were a lot of rookies who struggled with their shot this summer as well.

If Marcus Banks 2.0 is a top 5 rookie then the draft class will have turned out bad. He cannot shoot. Good athletic body but doesn't have offensive tools and BBIQ is questionable. Exum and Randle will be all stars and Smart will be a bust in their respective careers.

Re: NBA.com Rookie of the year - Marcus Smart Diss....
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2014, 11:48:57 AM »

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If Marcus Banks 2.0 is a top 5 rookie then the draft class will have turned out bad. He cannot shoot. Good athletic body but doesn't have offensive tools and BBIQ is questionable. Exum and Randle will be all stars and Smart will be a bust in their respective careers.

I will take that bet. Randle is pulling down a mighty 4.3 rebounds per game. Just a little less than Gal Mekel, an Israeli PG who is 6"1 and very unathletic, while shooting a mighty 43% from the field and 3.25 TOs...... Awesome numbers for a PF...

And if you are knocking Smart for shooting, check out Exum. He is a scrotching 30% from the field and 2.8 assists per game. Again, behind the aformentioned Mekel but also behind Viktor Gaddefors - a 6"8 forward from Sweden...

So does this mean Randle and Exum are busts? Not by a long shot... but Smart has performed way better than either and while his ceiling might not be as high as Exum, his basement is nowhere near as low. He is a proven winner.

And what is this about low BBall IQ? He may be a hot head, but he is great at getting to the line and has a great Ast/TO ratio which would suggest he knows what wins games better than most in this draft.

Nuff Said...

Re: NBA.com Rookie of the year - Marcus Smart Diss....
« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2014, 11:59:18 AM »

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Like other people have alluded to -- there's a big correlation between minutes per game and rookie of the year. The same way the Most Improved Player is secretly shorthand for -- player that saw the biggest increase in his minutes.
At least a goldfish with a Lincoln Log on its back goin' across your floor to your sock drawer has a miraculous connotation to it.

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« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2014, 12:00:19 PM »

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ROY is like 85% PPG, at least its not the Rising Stars game which is 99% PPG

Re: NBA.com Rookie of the year - Marcus Smart Diss....
« Reply #26 on: July 20, 2014, 12:01:22 PM »

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Marcus Smart will be a top 5 rookie this year, and that's without taking into account whether he improves his shooting. He impacts way too much of the game in other areas. I wish ball deflections showed up on a stat sheet, because he is so active and got his hands on so many passes on the perimeter leading to steals for others.

I do think he wont be as bad of a shooter as he was in the summer league. It looked like to me he was working on his pro-3 point shot the most this summer and was launching a lot of threes he probably shouldn't have. He'll have better discipline in the regular season, and I expect him to attack the basket more.

There were a lot of rookies who struggled with their shot this summer as well.

If Marcus Banks 2.0 is a top 5 rookie then the draft class will have turned out bad. He cannot shoot. Good athletic body but doesn't have offensive tools and BBIQ is questionable. Exum and Randle will be all stars and Smart will be a bust in their respective careers.


I wish people would stop referring Smart to Banks just because of their body type and defense. It's idiotic because it shows very little knowledge of basketball and players.

Smart has leadership qualities that have been recorded in college, leading the scrub team against the starters when he was suspended. He has a good BBIQ, makes good passes. He would have averaged 7 to 8 assists in SL if he had guys that wouldn't bobble the ball(Iverson) or could hit out side shots (Babb) when he got it to them.

Players like Smart that have a drive tend to do well in the game. He's got a fire about him thats really exciting. I think we only started to see a little of it in SL the last couple of games when he really started to put the team on his shoulders, where as before he was trying not to step on peoples toes.

You're comparing body types to if they're going to be all stars or not. Jeff Green better than PP? Gerald Green better than Reggie Miller? Both Green's are superior athletes to PP and Miller, but what's inside their heads are lacking. If you could put PP's brain in Jeff Greens body, he'd be better than Lebron.

It's ridiculous people are saying that Exum will be an all star before he was even drafted and never really saw him play out side of highlight video's. I watch 3 games in SL and he didn't looks special. Was he bad? No. But he defiantly didn't get better like Smart did, he got out played by Hood. I couldn't believe the play by play guys talking this kid up, yet guys like Warren out played him. Lavine who I thought would be a bust, looked amazing. Almost to the point were I'd screw the Love to Boston trade and send Rondo there for Lavine, almsot.

 You say Smart can't shoot and thats his downfall, yet Exum didn't shoot any better, actually worse on the FT. And yet Smart will be the bust of the draft?

Please. ::)

Re: NBA.com Rookie of the year - Marcus Smart Diss....
« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2014, 12:01:55 PM »

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I think we could see Smart reach 25 MPG by mid season, more if Rondo is (and should be) traded.

Re: NBA.com Rookie of the year - Marcus Smart Diss....
« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2014, 12:03:43 PM »

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Marcus Smart will be a top 5 rookie this year, and that's without taking into account whether he improves his shooting. He impacts way too much of the game in other areas. I wish ball deflections showed up on a stat sheet, because he is so active and got his hands on so many passes on the perimeter leading to steals for others.

I do think he wont be as bad of a shooter as he was in the summer league. It looked like to me he was working on his pro-3 point shot the most this summer and was launching a lot of threes he probably shouldn't have. He'll have better discipline in the regular season, and I expect him to attack the basket more.

There were a lot of rookies who struggled with their shot this summer as well.

If Marcus Banks 2.0 is a top 5 rookie then the draft class will have turned out bad. He cannot shoot. Good athletic body but doesn't have offensive tools and BBIQ is questionable. Exum and Randle will be all stars and Smart will be a bust in their respective careers.


I wish people would stop referring Smart to Banks just because of their body type and defense. It's idiotic because it shows very little knowledge of basketball and players.

Smart has leadership qualities that have been recorded in college, leading the scrub team against the starters when he was suspended. He has a good BBIQ, makes good passes. He would have averaged 7 to 8 assists in SL if he had guys that wouldn't bobble the ball(Iverson) or could hit out side shots (Babb) when he got it to them.

Players like Smart that have a drive tend to do well in the game. He's got a fire about him thats really exciting. I think we only started to see a little of it in SL the last couple of games when he really started to put the team on his shoulders, where as before he was trying not to step on peoples toes.

You're comparing body types to if they're going to be all stars or not. Jeff Green better than PP? Gerald Green better than Reggie Miller? Both Green's are superior athletes to PP and Miller, but what's inside their heads are lacking. If you could put PP's brain in Jeff Greens body, he'd be better than Lebron.

It's ridiculous people are saying that Exum will be an all star before he was even drafted and never really saw him play out side of highlight video's. I watch 3 games in SL and he didn't looks special. Was he bad? No. But he defiantly didn't get better like Smart did, he got out played by Hood. I couldn't believe the play by play guys talking this kid up, yet guys like Warren out played him. Lavine who I thought would be a bust, looked amazing. Almost to the point were I'd screw the Love to Boston trade and send Rondo there for Lavine, almsot.

 You say Smart can't shoot and thats his downfall, yet Exum didn't shoot any better, actually worse on the FT. And yet Smart will be the bust of the draft?

Please. ::)

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