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Re: Draft lottery reforms coming as soon as next year
« Reply #45 on: July 19, 2014, 01:05:43 PM »

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Just because they show the process after and there are reps at the drawing, does not mean it is not fixed. I truly feel that while playing craps at MGM foxwoods, there is come cheating involved on the part of the casino. I have no idea what it could be and its not "the house always wins". I have seen to much evidence that makes me suspect tampering. When I am at a table and this happens I just kindly grab my chips and walk away.

Re: Draft lottery reforms coming as soon as next year
« Reply #46 on: July 19, 2014, 01:09:36 PM »

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Not really going to matter much if it's rigged pretty much every year.

Re: Draft lottery reforms coming as soon as next year
« Reply #47 on: July 19, 2014, 01:25:30 PM »

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Just because they show the process after and there are reps at the drawing, does not mean it is not fixed.

How is it fixed? I am sick of all these conspiracy theorists that say stuff like this but don't back it up. What would they do to fix it? Given the way the system is constructed and the fact that we can see them do it, how would they be fixing it? Unless you think the public process is all a sham that somehow dozens of people with directly competing interests have never let slip at any point in the past decade and that there is another secret lottery, which strains all plausibility.

I truly feel that while playing craps at MGM foxwoods, there is come cheating involved on the part of the casino. I have no idea what it could be and its not "the house always wins". I have seen to much evidence that makes me suspect tampering. When I am at a table and this happens I just kindly grab my chips and walk away.

There's no reason for a casino to cheat. All a casino needs to do is play the odds and they will make a profit. Cheating would be pointless; the marginal benefit of getting more money by cheating is too small compared to what would happen if they got caught. And it would be almost impossible to keep that under wraps, considering the hundreds of people employed by Foxwoods who would know and have to stay quiet, not to mention the thousands of professional gamblers that would be sure to notice, not to mention government inspectors and police (who will go undercover at casinos to look just for this kind of thing). Anyone with a detailed knowledge of probability and odds can figure out if a game is fixed by just watching it and checking the pattern of results (in fact, it is almost pitifully easy to get caught cheating given how predictable the results from these sorts of games are).

There's just no reason for them to rig it. It would be incredibly difficult to cover it up in the first place, and besides the casino's make almost limitless profit without rigging it. The rule structure of the games themselves is already "rigged" in such a way the house is more likely to win any given hand/game than a gambler is, especially over repeated attempts.

Re: Draft lottery reforms coming as soon as next year
« Reply #48 on: July 19, 2014, 02:00:36 PM »

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my favorite solution thus far is putting the teams out of the playoffs in a tournament to decide seeding. possibly a round robin style.   it's not the greatest idea but it will force a team to actually earn their draft pick, not left up to luck of the draw and not accumulate losses.

Do you really think guys will bust their butts for their team to get their replacement?   I have some beachfront property on Jupiter if your that naive, that I will sell you on the cheap...

like I said "not the best solution". but I do think it's the best suggestion so far. the NBA gets more games to sell and while this is out of my realm of knowledge I believe it would equal more revenue with more games. which is something the league is always looking for.

plus someone has to win. if a team is just going through the motions and not "busting their butts". does that team really deserve a chance at a player like Duncan, Jordan, kobe or LeBron?

I believe what he is saying is that players will TANK these games too because they either do not like the top prospect or they do not want to help their team win the lottery so they can be replaced

I got exactly what he was saying.

the draft takes place every yr. and there's a chance players on a current team are getting replaced every yr. regardless of how the draft would be set up.

but just because a team drafts a player doesn't mean he automatically replaces someone on a roster. if a player is worried about being replaced all he has to do is perform.

I think competitive players/good teams would look at this format and take it as a challenge and welcome a new addition.