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Re: Free Agency: Don't we need to change the definition of "overpay"?
« Reply #15 on: July 03, 2014, 01:16:02 PM »

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Right now based on what others will get in this market AB is not overpaid. Per 36 #s puts AB right near Hayward and Stephenson yet those two guys are 12million-Max players. If those guys get that one could argue Bradley could have received 10million per year.

While I don't think he is overpaid, it is possible to get market value and be overpaid if the market is inefficient, as the free agent market often can be.

I don't disagree with that statement. Good example of what you are saying I think is Hayward at max is overpaying if he gets that. Hayward should get 10million at most 13million per in this market. FWIW I have him rated as a 9 million dollar player and AB I had at 7 million without market inflation.

Re: Free Agency: Don't we need to change the definition of "overpay"?
« Reply #16 on: July 03, 2014, 01:18:27 PM »

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Not sure what the hoopla is all about. With the exception of Haywood (and rumours of max offer have not been verified yet), Gortat, and Lowry, these are all reasonable contracts.

When did giving $4-5 million to a reasonable rotation player become "overpaying"?! It's absolutely been the norm for years now.
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Re: Free Agency: Don't we need to change the definition of "overpay"?
« Reply #17 on: July 03, 2014, 01:25:16 PM »

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They should not even release salary numbers.  People here see 8 Million and think "that is a ton of money why did they pay him that".  Why not just say Avery Bradley got paid slightly more than Livingston and Meeks, but not quite as much as Lowry, Hayward, and Stepheson (Should).   Wouldn't we agree that's where he belongs?  Who cares about the $Xxx,xxx behind it.  He got paid fair market value. 

Re: Free Agency: Don't we need to change the definition of "overpay"?
« Reply #18 on: July 03, 2014, 01:26:38 PM »

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Not sure what the hoopla is all about. With the exception of Haywood (and rumours of max offer have not been verified yet), Gortat, and Lowry, these are all reasonable contracts.

When did giving $4-5 million to a reasonable rotation player became "overpaying"?! It's absolutely been the norm for years now.

Ding ding ding, we have a winner!  I compared it to Courtney Lee earlier.  He's a nice rotation guy.  Nothing phenomenal.  He got 5 mil.  Avery deserves more than that.  He got it.  I don't see what the problem is for some folks. I guess they don't like him so they think we should have got him for 4 mil. 

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« Reply #19 on: July 03, 2014, 01:30:15 PM »

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Not sure what the hoopla is all about. With the exception of Haywood (and rumours of max offer have not been verified yet), Gortat, and Lowry, these are all reasonable contracts.

When did giving $4-5 million to a reasonable rotation player became "overpaying"?! It's absolutely been the norm for years now.

Most of the hoopla comes from people that are unfamiliar with what NBA players get paid. Some people do not even know the players they just see all those $$$$. Also I agree 4-5million for a player is okay if he is in your 9 man rotation. If out side the 9 you should have gone with a rookie or cheap vet. to fill the roster and saved 2 million or more.

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« Reply #20 on: July 03, 2014, 01:32:46 PM »

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Not sure what the hoopla is all about. With the exception of Haywood (and rumours of max offer have not been verified yet), Gortat, and Lowry, these are all reasonable contracts.

When did giving $4-5 million to a reasonable rotation player became "overpaying"?! It's absolutely been the norm for years now.

   Part of it's the mantra that your team should be a couple of high priced players and a bunch of low paid players (assuming you have or get a "big three").

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« Reply #21 on: July 03, 2014, 01:38:25 PM »

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Not sure what the hoopla is all about. With the exception of Haywood (and rumours of max offer have not been verified yet), Gortat, and Lowry, these are all reasonable contracts.

When did giving $4-5 million to a reasonable rotation player became "overpaying"?! It's absolutely been the norm for years now.

Ding ding ding, we have a winner!  I compared it to Courtney Lee earlier.  He's a nice rotation guy.  Nothing phenomenal.  He got 5 mil.  Avery deserves more than that.  He got it.  I don't see what the problem is for some folks. I guess they don't like him so they think we should have got him for 4 mil.
This is what the problem is. It may or may not be true, but we'll never know, since Ainge jumped the gun and signed him when he didn't have to.
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« Reply #22 on: July 03, 2014, 02:48:30 PM »

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When did giving $4-5 million to a reasonable rotation player become "overpaying"?! It's absolutely been the norm for years now.
I think $4-5 million is fine for a role playing starter or for a high end bench player.

I think $4-5 million is overpaying for middle of the pack bench players.