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Re: KG to play next season
« Reply #30 on: June 25, 2014, 09:39:43 PM »

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"Better to burn out than fade away."  Kurt Cobain

I think if you offered Kurt 10 Million to not kill himself for one more year he would of taken that option.

Re: KG to play next season
« Reply #31 on: June 25, 2014, 09:40:28 PM »

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Step 1:  Sign Pierce this offseason
Step 2:  KG feigns an injury for a few months
Step 3:  Mid-season buyout
Step 4:  Feel-good KG/Pierce reunion on Boston's bench.

*lights prayer candle*

As much as I was (and I guess if it mattered, still am) on board with the Pierce/Garnett BKN trade, seeing them diminished in Brooklyn was really painful. I think it would be kind of cathartic to see them end their careers in Boston. Especially if this Love/Asik think happens, and we make the playoffs.

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Re: KG to play next season
« Reply #32 on: June 25, 2014, 09:41:43 PM »

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"Better to burn out than fade away."  Kurt Cobain

I think if you offered Kurt 10 Million to not kill himself for one more year he would of taken that option.

actually I believe Kurt made more than that per year during Nirvana's peak. Just saying.

Re: KG to play next season
« Reply #33 on: June 25, 2014, 09:41:56 PM »

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"Better to burn out than fade away."  Kurt Cobain

Originally a Neil Young quote... and he is very much alive  :)

Re: KG to play next season
« Reply #34 on: June 25, 2014, 09:57:04 PM »

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"Better to burn out than fade away."  Kurt Cobain

Originally a Neil Young quote... and he is very much alive  :)

Lol I was gonna pass on this but Neil Young is probably PO'd. Rust never sleeps.

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like that is always lethal." - Evan 'The God' Turner

Re: KG to play next season
« Reply #35 on: June 25, 2014, 10:07:45 PM »

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Re: KG to play next season
« Reply #36 on: June 25, 2014, 10:24:10 PM »

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Have to wonder how much of his decision is based on Tim Duncan.  Must kill him to see Duncan continue to perform at an elite level on a championship team.   KG's regressed, though... Duncan's per-minute production has basically stayed consistent throughout his entire career.   If Duncan retired, KG would probably retire.
Duncan isn't elite anymore. He has better supporting cast and a far better coach, who can all cover up Duncan's weaknesses or failures. You really think KG would be looking this bad if he wasn't the only legit rim-protecting big man on his team for the past 3-4 years and wasn't expected to do everything a the big men of the team are supposed to do all by himself?

No, I am not in some sort of denial that KG is still an MVP player. But people like to completely disregard KG's supporting cast versus Duncan's supporting cast. Duncan has players to hide his old-age mistakes. KG doesn't have anyone down low to help him out. If you asked Dwight Howard to do be the only big man on the team and do everything himself, he will get tired way sooner and make far more mistakes.

I wholeheartedly agree.  Duncan, for the most part, is always getting wide open layups, dunks, and even a few midrange jumpers over the course of a game, so unlike Garnett, Duncan isn't asked to create his own offense.  He's rarely in the post anymore, understandably, but even when he is, I don't think he's better than KG.  For all of those who call him The Big Fundamental, Duncan rarely uses his left hand, if ever.  Just because you can make a bank shot doesn't mean that you're fundamentally sound.  When KG plays inside, he's got just as many, if not more, moves as Tim imho.  Plus, even though he's improved in the final years of his career, Duncan was never a good free throw shooter, and was often a liability at the end of games because of it, while Garnett has always been an excellent shooter from the charity stripe, especially for a big man, and has made more than his fair share of huge foul shots.

I just think that Kidd was asking him and Pierce to do things that they can no longer do throughout games, at least consistently.  KG shouldn't have to create his own shot off the dribble at 38.  It's not a video game.  Of course, there were many games when he took 4 shots, so if we're going to compare Duncan and Garnett based on their last season performances, this must be taken into account.  Kidd had no clue as to how to use him, or Pierce, correctly. 

Anyway, all that last season showed me was how much better Rondo is than Williams, and how he, Pierce, and Garnett all made each other better, thus making the game easier for each other, despite Doc's putrid offense.  Either way, I miss them dearly.  The only thing that I wonder with KG is if he would consider embracing the role of 6th man like Walton did in 86.  He would be absolutely deadly, and would likely still be on the court in crunch time.  I know that making such an adjustment is extremely difficult, especially for someone of his stature, but I think KG would thrive in that role.  What do you guys think?
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Re: KG to play next season
« Reply #37 on: June 26, 2014, 12:24:52 AM »

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Lots of people saying that KG would retire earlier because of pride.  That NEVER was going to happen.  You walk down the street and see 12 mil on the sidewalk, you pick it up.  Doesn't matter how much money he's made.

Re: KG to play next season
« Reply #38 on: June 26, 2014, 12:35:23 AM »

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Maybe we should take KG back

He is better

Than nothing or rather not having a center .  At least the fans get to see HOF person ....for their ticket money .

This is truely a screwed up team.

Danny better have a plan

Besides ..... Tanking ....which he is poor at doing too

Celtics a te undef some pressure to put a better product out.


No wonder Doc Rivers left.

Re: KG to play next season
« Reply #39 on: June 26, 2014, 01:17:36 AM »

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Have to wonder how much of his decision is based on Tim Duncan.  Must kill him to see Duncan continue to perform at an elite level on a championship team.   KG's regressed, though... Duncan's per-minute production has basically stayed consistent throughout his entire career.   If Duncan retired, KG would probably retire.

I can't imagine there is anyone left who would say KG was better than Duncan, but if there was, the last two years should have ended that debate.  It probably was a combo of being stronger, genetics, and also playing more fundamental basketball that allowed Duncan to be so much more solid over the long run. Duncan has now played over 61,000 minutes in his career, with KG at 54,100. Duncan has been a freak of nature.

In terms of overall ability, I would say KG is at least on par with Duncan over the course of his career, up until last season.  It was really only last season in Brooklyn that KG's per-minute production went way down.

It is a little hard to compare them though as they are two very different players.  Still I rate KG as a better individual player, as he was just so incredibly versatile in his skill set - it's very rare to find a 7 footer who can cover a PG on defence and bring the ball up the court on offense, all while grabbing 14 rebounds a game, scoring 25 points and blocking a number of shots in the post.  Just an absolute freakish skill set.

Duncan never had that type of versatility and couldn't impact a game in so many ways, instead having a more traditional skill set for a big man.  However the things TD did well, he did incredibly well. 

I don't really believe it's fair to compare the two based primarily on team achievements (i.e. wins and championships) as many other's do, because that just brings out the "but he had better players around him" arguments that never achieve anything.   In terms of their individual achievements though, I think they are about on par.