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Re: how far can this team go..?
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2014, 10:57:33 AM »

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Teams without go to #1 scorers, generally don't do much in the post season and that team lacks that sort of scorer.  The closest one is Eric Gordon and he hasn't been the same since the knee injuries.
I agree! A go to scorer is so important!  But also so rare!
Curious to see what realistic alternative you might have to get us a go to scorer this summer or next..?
The idea with this plan is to potentially free up around  37 million in summer 2015 to go after those fireworks that bring go to scorers etc...
except you won't free up that money and acquiring that team isn't realistic at all.
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Re: how far can this team go..?
« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2014, 11:00:37 AM »

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Realism is hardly a requirement for making a thread.
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Re: how far can this team go..?
« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2014, 11:05:06 AM »

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Re: how far can this team go..?
« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2014, 11:38:23 AM »

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Realism is hardly a requirement for making a thread.
Sure, but this wasn't a hypothetical thread it was an attempt at a realistic team.  Thus, my statement.
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Re: how far can this team go..?
« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2014, 02:21:52 PM »

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Teams without go to #1 scorers, generally don't do much in the post season and that team lacks that sort of scorer.  The closest one is Eric Gordon and he hasn't been the same since the knee injuries.
I agree! A go to scorer is so important!  But also so rare!
Curious to see what realistic alternative you might have to get us a go to scorer this summer or next..?
The idea with this plan is to potentially free up around  37 million in summer 2015 to go after those fireworks that bring go to scorers etc...
except you won't free up that money and acquiring that team isn't realistic at all.

First of all, this team will still have us UNDER the tax...

Second, I said potentially free up that money that is if Green uses his player option, then they will be Asik (8m) Lin (8m) Rondo (12m) and Green (9m) off the book... I will let you do the math...
 

Re: how far can this team go..?
« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2014, 02:29:43 PM »

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Realism is hardly a requirement for making a thread.

So true.

This is a realistic scenario given the numerous draft picks we have...
The question I was trying to raised here was is such a team worth giving up some of our assets...?
I feel like Lin and Asik are realistic... lots of threads about it already.. you can go check them out...
Ryan Anderson out of an injury instead of Kevin Love seems more realistic to me...
Wallace 10m for Gordon 14m seems realistic as well as they need such a SF and we need a SG...
The one part that might be difficult to pull out would be Hayward for Bradley. But I'm sure he would love to be a celtics under Stevens and we do have assets to lure Utah into such a swap... the question is which ones are worth it...?
This idea is totally realistic and I was just curious to see how far you guys think such a team could go in this weak eastern conference...
I personally thought they could get to the conf finals with some luck and great coaching...

Re: how far can this team go..?
« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2014, 06:44:07 PM »

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Teams without go to #1 scorers, generally don't do much in the post season and that team lacks that sort of scorer.  The closest one is Eric Gordon and he hasn't been the same since the knee injuries.
I agree! A go to scorer is so important!  But also so rare!
Curious to see what realistic alternative you might have to get us a go to scorer this summer or next..?
The idea with this plan is to potentially free up around  37 million in summer 2015 to go after those fireworks that bring go to scorers etc...
except you won't free up that money and acquiring that team isn't realistic at all.

First of all, this team will still have us UNDER the tax...


I don't see how that team would be under the tax line. I added up the 2014-2015 season salaries of all the players you proposed below, and it doesn't work money wise. I do agree that the group you compiled would be a decent playoff squad, but it just isn't as realistic of a scenario as you are making it out to be.

Rondo (13mil) ... Lin (8.3mil) ... Pressey (500k)
Hayward (10 - 12mil) ... E. Gordon (14.9mil)... Johnson (915k)
Green (9.2mil)... A. Gordon (2.0 - 2.9mil)... J. Young (1.2 - 1.7mil)
R Anderson (8.5mil) ... Sully (1.4mil)... C. Iverson (500k)
Asik (8.3mil) ... Olynyk (2.0mil) ... Faverani (2.0mil)

I slotted in Hayward for a salary starting at 10mil, which is probably the minimum he will get in Free Agency this yr, especially with Utah determined to keep him. I also based the salaries of Gordon & Young upon where they will most likely be taken in the draft (Gordon between 5&9, and Young between 12&19).  ...Keep in mind, I rounded many of these numbers down, and I used the low-end of the projected salaries for Hayward & the two rookies.

Even adding up all the salaries conservatively, it would cost 82.7million to build that team, so the numbers would not work out in all reality. Not a horrible idea, but way too much cap space tied up on two overpaid, over-rated SGs.

Re: how far can this team go..?
« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2014, 07:18:52 PM »

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make it to 2nd round for sure..maybe 3rd but depends who they playing against
C/PF-Horford, Baynes, Noel, Theis, Morris,
SF/SG- Tatum, Brown, Hayward, Smart, Semi, Clark
PG- Irving, Rozier, Larkin

Re: how far can this team go..?
« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2014, 07:51:56 PM »

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Let's say Danny does is work via trade and draft and ends up with this team :

Rondo ... Lin ... Pressey
Hayward ... E. Gordon ... Johnson
Green ... A. Gordon ... J. Young
R Anderson ... Sully ... C. Iverson
Asik ... Olynyk ... Faverani

Chemistry is important so let's say this team play great together and has chemistry. ..
How far do we go in the next couple of playoff runs..?

a mid-level playoff team at best.  no go-to scorer.  very solid bench, probably best in the league.  problem is the starting lineup doesn't match up well with the top contenders  Rondo is the only one that would present a possible advantage over whoever the other teams put on the court.

really curious how you propose to add Anderson, Asik, Lin, Gordon, and Hayward while keeping Rondo, Sully and KO.  I only see Wallace, Bass, AB and the #5 missing from the roster.  Wouldn't give up the #5 for any of these guys

Thank you. TP. One correction though, the #5 isn't missing  ;D (it was presumably used on Aaron Gordon)