Would you trade Rondo for George.

[gpap]

 Salary wise George Hill and Paul George for Rondo Works.

Nice....Celts acquire George and George.

[BballTim]

Obviously.  Indiana would not.

Yup.

I eagerly await BBallTim's explanation of why we're all incorrect, though.

  Don't sell yourself short.  A decent amount of your posts are relatively accurate.

[CoachBo]

Obviously.  Indiana would not.

Yup.

I eagerly await BBallTim's explanation of why we're all incorrect, though.

Well played, sir.

[BigAlTheFuture]

No way. If they throw in Hibbert and take Wallace's contract, I'll consider. 

[BballTim]

Obviously.  Indiana would not.

Yup.

I eagerly await BBallTim's explanation of why we're all incorrect, though.

Well played, sir.

   You guys should form a club. You could sit around and swap stories about how clever your posts are. Some of them, anyways.

[D.o.s.]

Obviously.  Indiana would not.

Yup.

I eagerly await BBallTim's explanation of why we're all incorrect, though.

  Don't sell yourself short.  A decent amount of your posts are relatively accurate.

 
All in good fun.

[pokeKingCurtis]

A few years ago this'd have been realistic.

Also, a few years ago people were pulling for Ray Allen for OJ Mayo.

The genius/folly of potential.

Still think we should get Sanders for this reason if he comes "cheap" (his contract sucks butts though).

Thank god I'm not Ainge.

Actually, Sanders' contract works out as not so bad, long term.

The going rate right now for a veteran center who is an elite defender  (and thus among the upper tier of centers overall) is right around where he is paid (11M per, starting this coming season).  So that's not 'cheap', but it's not really overpriced, either.   Consider that Asik's 8M cap hit hides an overall actual pay rate of about the same in his current contract (he's due about 7M of back-due pay that won't count against the cap).  Consider that our own Kris Humphries makes that kind of cash on his current deal.

What makes Sanders' contract somewhat appealing is that it is locked in at that 11M per anum rate through the 2017-18 season.

During that time (starting next season, in fact) the salary cap will go up.  That will raise the market rate for salaries for all free agents, and in particular, for starting big men.   Asik will likely cost a lot more to re-sign after his current contract expires.  Perhaps 12-14M per.

So, having Sanders at 11M locked up for the next 4 seasons  (especially considering he is young and those should be his prime years) is potentially a good deal -- assuming he can stay out of trouble and on the court.

Thanks.

I had assumed his poison pill would balloon him up to Josh Smith levels. This makes things interesting.

[mmmmm]

A few years ago this'd have been realistic.

Also, a few years ago people were pulling for Ray Allen for OJ Mayo.

The genius/folly of potential.

Still think we should get Sanders for this reason if he comes "cheap" (his contract sucks butts though).

Thank god I'm not Ainge.

Actually, Sanders' contract works out as not so bad, long term.

The going rate right now for a veteran center who is an elite defender  (and thus among the upper tier of centers overall) is right around where he is paid (11M per, starting this coming season).  So that's not 'cheap', but it's not really overpriced, either.   Consider that Asik's 8M cap hit hides an overall actual pay rate of about the same in his current contract (he's due about 7M of back-due pay that won't count against the cap).  Consider that our own Kris Humphries makes that kind of cash on his current deal.

What makes Sanders' contract somewhat appealing is that it is locked in at that 11M per anum rate through the 2017-18 season.

During that time (starting next season, in fact) the salary cap will go up.  That will raise the market rate for salaries for all free agents, and in particular, for starting big men.   Asik will likely cost a lot more to re-sign after his current contract expires.  Perhaps 12-14M per.

So, having Sanders at 11M locked up for the next 4 seasons  (especially considering he is young and those should be his prime years) is potentially a good deal -- assuming he can stay out of trouble and on the court.

Thanks.

I had assumed his poison pill would balloon him up to Josh Smith levels. This makes things interesting.

Yeah, his 'poison pill' only applied to this season.  Because he signed the extension (which is to start his new salary next year), if he was traded during 2013-2014, even though his salary for this season was 3.8M, it would have bloomed to 9.4M.

But as of next season, his new salary just is what it is:  11M for the next few seasons.

I'm not totally sold that I'd prefer Sanders over Asik.   The character issues are a bit of a question mark, though possibly something that could be mitigated in a stronger team environment.   Hard to say.

Asik, as I said, might end up a bit more expensive, but he's a bit more solid of a personality, and Ron Adams apparently thinks very highly of him.  Remember, he coached Asik at Chicago and he has said he considers Asik one of the best defensive players he's ever coached.

So there is that sort of intangible to consider.

It will be interesting to see how all this plays out.  Maybe we get into the top 3 and Embiid falls in our lab and it is moot.

[Greenback]

Indiana is not that foolish.