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Re: Good chance of getting a center
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2014, 03:44:10 PM »

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I think there's a good chance Sanders and / or Asik will be available this summer.  They are decent role players, but both are probably too expensive for their current teams for different reasons.

I'm not sure if it would make sense to give up to much in order to acquire either this summer, but it would immediately improve the interior defense quite a bit to slot one of them into the starting lineup.

I would only acquire Asik if we were able to land a significantly upgraded roster to support the logic of adding him to our center slot.

Say we make a deal of a sign a traded Bradley, first rounder this year and a future first for Aaron Afllalo

I know Ainge has got, like, a gagillion 1st round picks at this point but TWO #1s and Bradley for Aaron freakin' Aflalo?

Mike

I'm more concerned about Bass and 2 1sts for Asik.

Re: Good chance of getting a center
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2014, 04:07:45 PM »

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Getting a good center is going to be tough. Teams are not going to give up cousins, hibbert, Noah, Drummond etc for less than a ransom.

I am not convinced that grabbing a high paid offensive center who doesn't do much on defense is a good idea. That would eliminate Kanter, Pekovic, Vucevic, and some other slow footed bigs.

The celtics might need to build up the other 4 positions and then take a swing at a center when that player is a free agent.

In 2015: Marc Gasol, Chandler (only if he can be stolen cheap, as his game is aging quickly), Hibbert, Jordan, Asik
2016: Noah, Horford (more of a power forward), Nene

And then you never know when a relationship sours and the celtics can swoop in with their stack of picks and young players. maybe a Drummond, Favors, cousins become available in the next few years.

Anyway, i dont think the celtics will have many center options this summer. Maybe Pau Gasol or Gortat could be picked up in free agency. Or Asik could be traded for. More than likely we are going to be small at center again next year.


Re: Good chance of getting a center
« Reply #17 on: March 19, 2014, 03:54:57 PM »

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We got centers, we just dont use them. I want fav to keep playing and showing what he can do but behind a athletic center. I dont want Asik in Green ever. Dude is over-rated as hell. But shown his skills by being given playing time. The celtics just don't play centers any more.


I would like the team to go for Monroe and such. Or if unathletic, Gasol and such. And then later try steal Drummond/davis or others in their redistricted FA. Even if they have to offer a supper poison pill. But Nola dont seem the spending type to go near the luxury tax. Maybe if they try to build around him and offer some hectic contracts to good players. But I can only wish. Them dudes are untouchable and thier teams will make sure.

Re: Good chance of getting a center
« Reply #18 on: March 20, 2014, 10:46:41 PM »

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I think there's a good chance Sanders and / or Asik will be available this summer.  They are decent role players, but both are probably too expensive for their current teams for different reasons.

I'm not sure if it would make sense to give up to much in order to acquire either this summer, but it would immediately improve the interior defense quite a bit to slot one of them into the starting lineup.

I would only acquire Asik if we were able to land a significantly upgraded roster to support the logic of adding him to our center slot.

Say we make a deal of a sign a traded Bradley, first rounder this year and a future first for Aaron Afllalo

I know Ainge has got, like, a gagillion 1st round picks at this point but TWO #1s and Bradley for Aaron freakin' Aflalo?

Mike

I'm more concerned about Bass and 2 1sts for Asik.

Rofl.  Those trade scenarios are pretty bad.  So we give up AB, Bass, and 4 1st round picks and we end up with Asik and Afflalo?  Seriously bad value there.

And a starting lineup of --
Rondo, Afflalo, Green, Asik, and Sully probably gets you the 5th-8th seed in the East but also gets you knocked out 1st round or maybe 2nd round if you're lucky.

I'd be more interested in exploring a trade for Larry Sanders than Asik right now.  I don't want his 15m cap hit/salary next year.

Re: Good chance of getting a center
« Reply #19 on: March 20, 2014, 10:49:30 PM »

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Our lotto pick and filler for Marc Gasol. If we miss out on the big three of this draft and end up with the 4th pick this is a no brainer imo.

Re: Good chance of getting a center
« Reply #20 on: March 20, 2014, 10:57:05 PM »

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I think there's a good chance Sanders and / or Asik will be available this summer.  They are decent role players, but both are probably too expensive for their current teams for different reasons.

I'm not sure if it would make sense to give up to much in order to acquire either this summer, but it would immediately improve the interior defense quite a bit to slot one of them into the starting lineup.

I would only acquire Asik if we were able to land a significantly upgraded roster to support the logic of adding him to our center slot.

Say we make a deal of a sign a traded Bradley, first rounder this year and a future first for Aaron Afllalo

I know Ainge has got, like, a gagillion 1st round picks at this point but TWO #1s and Bradley for Aaron freakin' Aflalo?

Mike

HAHAHAHAHA I knew I wasn't the only one wondering 'are we talking about the same Aaron Aflalo'? I am not even sure I would trade AB for him straight up. Seesh.

Re: Good chance of getting a center
« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2014, 11:20:18 PM »

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Getting a good center is going to be tough. Teams are not going to give up cousins, hibbert, Noah, Drummond etc for less than a ransom.

I am not convinced that grabbing a high paid offensive center who doesn't do much on defense is a good idea. That would eliminate Kanter, Pekovic, Vucevic, and some other slow footed bigs.

The celtics might need to build up the other 4 positions and then take a swing at a center when that player is a free agent.

In 2015: Marc Gasol, Chandler (only if he can be stolen cheap, as his game is aging quickly), Hibbert, Jordan, Asik
2016: Noah, Horford (more of a power forward), Nene

And then you never know when a relationship sours and the celtics can swoop in with their stack of picks and young players. maybe a Drummond, Favors, cousins become available in the next few years.

Anyway, i dont think the celtics will have many center options this summer. Maybe Pau Gasol or Gortat could be picked up in free agency. Or Asik could be traded for. More than likely we are going to be small at center again next year.

Well written.   Your conclusion of the C's play n small next year is  the way I see it coming down myself. And nothing Celtics could be worse for me than this ,,,,center less ball..  So there is a small shot we get Asik some how, but more of Fav and Hump maybe the way it goes down. Tank off part II or worse a 7 or 8 seed hades that never ends.

This is why Rondo needs to sit out the rest of e year so we can tank for Embiid.......


Re: Good chance of getting a center
« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2014, 11:21:44 PM »

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I think there's a good chance Sanders and / or Asik will be available this summer.  They are decent role players, but both are probably too expensive for their current teams for different reasons.

I'm not sure if it would make sense to give up to much in order to acquire either this summer, but it would immediately improve the interior defense quite a bit to slot one of them into the starting lineup.

I would only acquire Asik if we were able to land a significantly upgraded roster to support the logic of adding him to our center slot.

Say we make a deal of a sign a traded Bradley, first rounder this year and a future first for Aaron Afllalo

I know Ainge has got, like, a gagillion 1st round picks at this point but TWO #1s and Bradley for Aaron freakin' Aflalo?

Mike

HAHAHAHAHA I knew I wasn't the only one wondering 'are we talking about the same Aaron Aflalo'? I am not even sure I would trade AB for him straight up. Seesh.

You wouldnt trade a terrible injury prone undersized shooting guard that has essentially degressed since he came into league for a borderline all star this year who has improved in pretty much every statistical category each year in the league who is shooting 43% from three this year and 40% for his career while averaging 19 points a game and playing defense that is a step under Bradley?

 ::) right.

Re: Good chance of getting a center
« Reply #23 on: March 20, 2014, 11:24:43 PM »

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I'm still of the belief that we will be a lotto team next year and we will be aiming to get one of the bigs in the 2015 draft.

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Re: Good chance of getting a center
« Reply #24 on: March 20, 2014, 11:27:27 PM »

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I think there's a good chance Sanders and / or Asik will be available this summer.  They are decent role players, but both are probably too expensive for their current teams for different reasons.

I'm not sure if it would make sense to give up to much in order to acquire either this summer, but it would immediately improve the interior defense quite a bit to slot one of them into the starting lineup.

I would only acquire Asik if we were able to land a significantly upgraded roster to support the logic of adding him to our center slot.

Say we make a deal of a sign a traded Bradley, first rounder this year and a future first for Aaron Afllalo

I know Ainge has got, like, a gagillion 1st round picks at this point but TWO #1s and Bradley for Aaron freakin' Aflalo?

Mike

I'm more concerned about Bass and 2 1sts for Asik.

Rofl.  Those trade scenarios are pretty bad.  So we give up AB, Bass, and 4 1st round picks and we end up with Asik and Afflalo?  Seriously bad value there.

And a starting lineup of --
Rondo, Afflalo, Green, Asik, and Sully probably gets you the 5th-8th seed in the East but also gets you knocked out 1st round or maybe 2nd round if you're lucky.

I'd be more interested in exploring a trade for Larry Sanders than Asik right now.  I don't want his 15m cap hit/salary next year.

Asik's contract only counts as 8 million towards the cap. 8 mil for a player like Asik is a steal.

We have 10 first rounders in the next 5 years for a reason, and they won't all be sticking around Boston thats for sure. Its a near no brainer to trade 2 picks, most likely hit or miss players in the mid to low 20's (Clippers pick, nets picks) for two for sure talents that would be significant role players to help this team compete, when only Bass and Bradley are involved in those deals.

Re: Good chance of getting a center
« Reply #25 on: March 20, 2014, 11:44:25 PM »

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I think there's a good chance Sanders and / or Asik will be available this summer.  They are decent role players, but both are probably too expensive for their current teams for different reasons.

I'm not sure if it would make sense to give up to much in order to acquire either this summer, but it would immediately improve the interior defense quite a bit to slot one of them into the starting lineup.

I would only acquire Asik if we were able to land a significantly upgraded roster to support the logic of adding him to our center slot.

Say we make a deal of a sign a traded Bradley, first rounder this year and a future first for Aaron Afllalo

I know Ainge has got, like, a gagillion 1st round picks at this point but TWO #1s and Bradley for Aaron freakin' Aflalo?

Mike

HAHAHAHAHA I knew I wasn't the only one wondering 'are we talking about the same Aaron Aflalo'? I am not even sure I would trade AB for him straight up. Seesh.

You wouldnt trade a terrible injury prone undersized shooting guard that has essentially degressed since he came into league for a borderline all star this year who has improved in pretty much every statistical category each year in the league who is shooting 43% from three this year and 40% for his career while averaging 19 points a game and playing defense that is a step under Bradley?

 ::) right.
Bradley has improved every year that he has been in the league.  His PER is at an alltime high and his scoring has increased every year.  Agree with the rest of your post.

Re: Good chance of getting a center
« Reply #26 on: March 20, 2014, 11:49:53 PM »

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I think there's a good chance Sanders and / or Asik will be available this summer.  They are decent role players, but both are probably too expensive for their current teams for different reasons.

I'm not sure if it would make sense to give up to much in order to acquire either this summer, but it would immediately improve the interior defense quite a bit to slot one of them into the starting lineup.

I would only acquire Asik if we were able to land a significantly upgraded roster to support the logic of adding him to our center slot.

Say we make a deal of a sign a traded Bradley, first rounder this year and a future first for Aaron Afllalo

I know Ainge has got, like, a gagillion 1st round picks at this point but TWO #1s and Bradley for Aaron freakin' Aflalo?

Mike

HAHAHAHAHA I knew I wasn't the only one wondering 'are we talking about the same Aaron Aflalo'? I am not even sure I would trade AB for him straight up. Seesh.

You wouldnt trade a terrible injury prone undersized shooting guard that has essentially degressed since he came into league for a borderline all star this year who has improved in pretty much every statistical category each year in the league who is shooting 43% from three this year and 40% for his career while averaging 19 points a game and playing defense that is a step under Bradley?

 ::) right.

That's still highway robbery for Afflalo.
I'd say it's at most a pick around the 20-25 range. Maybe slightly better in a bum draft year.
Picks are worth so much now, Afflalo is great but anything more than a late first+expiring filler is probably too much in the new tax era. If he was Jrue Holiday's age/years in the league it would be a different story. I think you're overrating his defense too but that's just my speculative opinion.
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Re: Good chance of getting a center
« Reply #27 on: March 20, 2014, 11:55:41 PM »

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A non quitting Asik would be ideal. Don't know how "good of a chance" he is to land.

I'd also be satisfied with Gortat. As a Free Agent, we have as good of a chance as anyone, assuming we'll be willing to pay.

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Re: Good chance of getting a center
« Reply #28 on: March 21, 2014, 12:18:53 AM »

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I think there's a good chance Sanders and / or Asik will be available this summer.  They are decent role players, but both are probably too expensive for their current teams for different reasons.

I'm not sure if it would make sense to give up to much in order to acquire either this summer, but it would immediately improve the interior defense quite a bit to slot one of them into the starting lineup.

I would only acquire Asik if we were able to land a significantly upgraded roster to support the logic of adding him to our center slot.

Say we make a deal of a sign a traded Bradley, first rounder this year and a future first for Aaron Afllalo

I know Ainge has got, like, a gagillion 1st round picks at this point but TWO #1s and Bradley for Aaron freakin' Aflalo?

Mike

HAHAHAHAHA I knew I wasn't the only one wondering 'are we talking about the same Aaron Aflalo'? I am not even sure I would trade AB for him straight up. Seesh.

You wouldnt trade a terrible injury prone undersized shooting guard that has essentially degressed since he came into league for a borderline all star this year who has improved in pretty much every statistical category each year in the league who is shooting 43% from three this year and 40% for his career while averaging 19 points a game and playing defense that is a step under Bradley?

 ::) right.
Bradley has improved every year that he has been in the league.  His PER is at an alltime high and his scoring has increased every year.  Agree with the rest of your post.

A stellar PER of 12.4 good enough for 254th place in the NBA.

(I am not a Bradley fan at all...If you cant tell)