Forsberg on Green

[Jailan34]

Wesley Matthews is a better shooter and play maker earning 3 million less per year than green. Green is the #1 option on a garbage team and has been inconsistent all year and has shown plenty of games where he put forth little to no effort.

  Green's not the #1 option on the team, Bradley and Sully both shoot more and have higher usage rates than Green.

Because he doesn't care. Management gave him a big contract on good faith after his injury, hoping he would turn into something he never did. He's a disappointment.

If only he could care the ball into the basket!

There is a ton more to basketball than caring.  Have you ever played?  You watch Jeff out there and think he doesn't care?  About what?  Scoring?  Winning?

Players who don't care tend to not play defense, I'll tell you that.  And Jeff does play defense, even when he isn't scoring much.

Like all the overboard Jeff haters, you just aren't using much logic here.  You're expecting him to be an All Star and he's not, he's just a good player who, yes, can be your third leading scorer on a playoff team.  And he isn't overpaid for that very role he is playing.

I never expected him to be an allstar, I knew it was a terrible trade the day it happened, just sick of this dude still being on the Celtics. I'm using plenty of logic, hes an inconsistent scorer who doesn't play hard every game, doesn't create for others, and defenders at an above average level. Do I want that player being my 3rd best player on a championship team? Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline. no.

[Snakehead]

Wesley Matthews is a better shooter and play maker earning 3 million less per year than green. Green is the #1 option on a garbage team and has been inconsistent all year and has shown plenty of games where he put forth little to no effort.

  Green's not the #1 option on the team, Bradley and Sully both shoot more and have higher usage rates than Green.

Because he doesn't care. Management gave him a big contract on good faith after his injury, hoping he would turn into something he never did. He's a disappointment.

If only he could care the ball into the basket!

There is a ton more to basketball than caring.  Have you ever played?  You watch Jeff out there and think he doesn't care?  About what?  Scoring?  Winning?

Players who don't care tend to not play defense, I'll tell you that.  And Jeff does play defense, even when he isn't scoring much.

Like all the overboard Jeff haters, you just aren't using much logic here.  You're expecting him to be an All Star and he's not, he's just a good player who, yes, can be your third leading scorer on a playoff team.  And he isn't overpaid for that very role he is playing.

I never expected him to be an allstar, I knew it was a terrible trade the day it happened, just sick of this dude still being on the Celtics. I'm using plenty of logic, hes an inconsistent scorer who doesn't play hard every game, doesn't create for others, and defenders at an above average level. Do I want that player being my 3rd best player on a championship team? **** no.

Right if only we still had Perkins!  That's a way better contract!

 

It says a lot about what you think is a good team that the third leading scorer on this hypothetical team , to you, is the third best player on said team.  You must hate Rondo.

[BballTim]

I believe I've been one of the last guys driving the Jeff Green bandwagon, but I'm leaning towards pulling over to the side of the road.

It's not a knock on Jeff and I'm not "trade him for anything", but Jeff is being asked to do something he simply is not and that's a #1 scorer. He just doesn't fit with this team ATM. If Danny can get future assets/players, I'm for it.

I just don't get the Green hate though. If you ran a restaurant and you asked your line-cook to be an executive chef, would you hate him because he failed?

TP for being rational. People want to hate on what he isn't, instead of being happy what he is...a good player. He isn't a superstar, but shipping him out for pennies is a mistake. If he's your leading scorer you're 16-33, but if he's your number 3 scorer, your team is going to be pretty darn good. We can't have a youth movement if Rondo is leading the team so why give him up unless it's to help get that go to scorer/star?

People throw this out there like it means nothing, like a third scorer on a championship team can be an average nba player. True third options are players like Ray Allen, Bosh or Ginobili. Green isn't close to any of those.

At best Green is a 6th man on a championship team playing no more than 18-20 minutes a night.

  People throw out "At best Green is a 6th man on a championship team playing no more than 18-20 minutes a night" like it means nothing. Think the Heat start 5 players better than Green? How about those Lakers teams that won titles, meaning all of their post-Magic teams? If Green's at best a 6th man on a title team then at best Fisher's a 10th man on a title team. Or a starter...

Hes an inconsistent scorer who can play slightly above average d and thats it. Hes not a "3rd option" no matter what you say or however much you want him to be. The dude sucks.

hahah okay dude.

Do some research.  Portland is maybe the best offensive team in the league and would you care to guess how much their third leading scorer averages?  Here's a hint: it's exactly what Jeff averages.

Wesley Matthews is a better shooter and play maker earning 3 million less per year than green. Green is the #1 option on a garbage team and has been inconsistent all year and has shown plenty of games where he put forth little to no effort.

  Green's not the #1 option on the team, Bradley and Sully both shoot more and have higher usage rates than Green.

Because he doesn't care. Management gave him a big contract on good faith after his injury, hoping he would turn into something he never did. He's a disappointment.

  Regardless of what you think the reason is he's not our #1 option.

[RockinRyA]

Wesley Matthews is a better shooter and play maker earning 3 million less per year than green. Green is the #1 option on a garbage team and has been inconsistent all year and has shown plenty of games where he put forth little to no effort.

  Green's not the #1 option on the team, Bradley and Sully both shoot more and have higher usage rates than Green.

Because he doesn't care. Management gave him a big contract on good faith after his injury, hoping he would turn into something he never did. He's a disappointment.

If only he could care the ball into the basket!

There is a ton more to basketball than caring.  Have you ever played?  You watch Jeff out there and think he doesn't care?  About what?  Scoring?  Winning?

Players who don't care tend to not play defense, I'll tell you that.  And Jeff does play defense, even when he isn't scoring much.

Like all the overboard Jeff haters, you just aren't using much logic here.  You're expecting him to be an All Star and he's not, he's just a good player who, yes, can be your third leading scorer on a playoff team.  And he isn't overpaid for that very role he is playing.

I never expected him to be an allstar, I knew it was a terrible trade the day it happened, just sick of this dude still being on the Celtics. I'm using plenty of logic, hes an inconsistent scorer who doesn't play hard every game, doesn't create for others, and defenders at an above average level. Do I want that player being my 3rd best player on a championship team? **** no.

AFAIK the only consistent scorers are those who are considered stars. Green isnt one for a reason. I dont get all you green haters, you arent satisfied with his 16ppg and looking for more 

Woe to you and your unrealistic expectations

[pokeKingCurtis]

Wesley Matthews is a better shooter and play maker earning 3 million less per year than green. Green is the #1 option on a garbage team and has been inconsistent all year and has shown plenty of games where he put forth little to no effort.

  Green's not the #1 option on the team, Bradley and Sully both shoot more and have higher usage rates than Green.

Because he doesn't care. Management gave him a big contract on good faith after his injury, hoping he would turn into something he never did. He's a disappointment.

If only he could care the ball into the basket!

There is a ton more to basketball than caring.  Have you ever played?  You watch Jeff out there and think he doesn't care?  About what?  Scoring?  Winning?

Players who don't care tend to not play defense, I'll tell you that.  And Jeff does play defense, even when he isn't scoring much.

Like all the overboard Jeff haters, you just aren't using much logic here.  You're expecting him to be an All Star and he's not, he's just a good player who, yes, can be your third leading scorer on a playoff team.  And he isn't overpaid for that very role he is playing.

I never expected him to be an allstar, I knew it was a terrible trade the day it happened, just sick of this dude still being on the Celtics. I'm using plenty of logic, hes an inconsistent scorer who doesn't play hard every game, doesn't create for others, and defenders at an above average level. Do I want that player being my 3rd best player on a championship team? **** no.

AFAIK the only consistent scorers are those who are considered stars. Green isnt one for a reason. I dont get all you green haters, you arent satisfied with his 16ppg and looking for more 

Woe to you and your unrealistic expectations

There's maybe really 3 Jeff Green haters in the whole forum (who think he's a 6th man at best on a championship team).