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Offline Lucky17

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Cleveland is missing from this list. They're going to keep buying hard... or trying.

Would trading Waiters improve team chemistry/morale?

Cavs have some expirings they could scrape together. I suppose Deng makes Bennett expendable, FWIW.
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Unless we are talking about acquiring a legit big, I do not want any more players who cannot shoot.

Game has definitely changed. Today's NBA is all about having one player who can get into the paint or maybe command a double team on the box and everyone else just spots up. Or get out in transition and then everyone spots up. Move the ball faster than the defense can rotate and knock down a three.

This is the NBA today. Unless you can finish right at the rim, second best option is an open look at a three. Some rare exceptions to this, but if you cannot shoot the three today.....you lose.

Miami shot 51.4 % from the field last night against OKC and lost by 17 at home. OKC shot 16-27 from three. It is a shooters league, more so than ever before and that is the quickest way out of this mess IMO.

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Unless we are talking about acquiring a legit big, I do not want any more players who cannot shoot.

Game has definitely changed. Today's NBA is all about having one player who can get into the paint or maybe command a double team on the box and everyone else just spots up. Or get out in transition and then everyone spots up. Move the ball faster than the defense can rotate and knock down a three.

This is the NBA today. Unless you can finish right at the rim, second best option is an open look at a three. Some rare exceptions to this, but if you cannot shoot the three today.....you lose.

Miami shot 51.4 % from the field last night against OKC and lost by 17 at home. OKC shot 16-27 from three. It is a shooters league, more so than ever before and that is the quickest way out of this mess IMO.

In a 7 game series though, I don't see 16-27 holding up.  Miami is still the better team, not that they can't shoot

Offline Dog_Lover106

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Unless we are talking about acquiring a legit big, I do not want any more players who cannot shoot.

Game has definitely changed. Today's NBA is all about having one player who can get into the paint or maybe command a double team on the box and everyone else just spots up. Or get out in transition and then everyone spots up. Move the ball faster than the defense can rotate and knock down a three.

This is the NBA today. Unless you can finish right at the rim, second best option is an open look at a three. Some rare exceptions to this, but if you cannot shoot the three today.....you lose.

Miami shot 51.4 % from the field last night against OKC and lost by 17 at home. OKC shot 16-27 from three. It is a shooters league, more so than ever before and that is the quickest way out of this mess IMO.

In a 7 game series though, I don't see 16-27 holding up.  Miami is still the better team, not that they can't shoot
They do not have to shoot 16-27. 33% from the three equals 50% from the two. OKC won by 17 even though they were down 22 - 4 to start. Miami played the same way and took about 19 threes.

Perk and Steven Adams played 7 minutes combined total and PJ3 played 30 minutes at the 5 position. Brooks gave up rim protection against two of the better get to the rack guys in the league (LeBron and Wade) for someone who could match up against Bosh at the three point line and also spot up himself.

I hate this kind of basketball, but it is what the NBA is all about right now. Not enough superstars to go around. Channing Fry is as valuable as Asik and Bosh is as valuable as Hibbert, because they can take an opposing big outside and knock down shots.

Even if you get the superstars with the old idea of "it takes 3 all-stars to win a title" you cannot afford to keep them anyway. Hence OKC had to dump Harden. Indiana might not be able to keep Stephenson.

OKC lost a top ten player and get to the rim guy in Harden, but they acquired a knock down 3 point shooter in Jeremy Lamb who does not need the ball to replace him.


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Right. We saw it first in Orlando with Howard--you can get all the way to the Finals bombing threes if you've got a great head coach and good passers 1-4.

The 2014 Warriors are a good example of that (although Mark Jackson is probably just a good head coach).

Not that OKC has a great head coach, (or good passers 1-4, particularly) but they've got enough of a surplus of talent to make up for it.
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Offline Dog_Lover106

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Right. We saw it first in Orlando with Howard--you can get all the way to the Finals bombing threes if you've got a great head coach and good passers 1-4.

The 2014 Warriors are a good example of that (although Mark Jackson is probably just a good head coach).

Not that OKC has a great head coach, (or good passers 1-4, particularly) but they've got enough of a surplus of talent to make up for it.
Yes, Portland, Phoenix, GS and Houston are doing the same thing.

Look at the Spurs, pick and roll with Duncan and Parker and then spot up with guys like Green, Bellinelli, Bonner, Ginobili, Mills, Neal (last year). Even Boris Diaw is shooting over 40% from three.

Obviously Embiid would be first choice, but beyond that I want shooters.

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Interesting conversation on WEEI today. Would you trade Rondo to Detroit Monroe?

I think most of us would say no, but what if Detroit threw in their first rounder and took Wallace for cap space?

Add to that there looks like some good PGs in the draft Danny may (or may not) like, and how are those contract extension talks going?

Food for thought.

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Interesting conversation on WEEI today. Would you trade Rondo to Detroit Monroe?

I think most of us would say no, but what if Detroit threw in their first rounder and took Wallace for cap space?

Add to that there looks like some good PGs in the draft Danny may (or may not) like, and how are those contract extension talks going?

Food for thought.

Detroits first rounder is going to Charlotte if it's outside the top 8, as it currently is.  So no, I wouldn't want that at all.  (Now, if we knew Detroit would pick inside the top 8, then maybe.  But that's unlikely, and not worth trading Rondo for).

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Adding Cleveland to the list as they continue to spiral.

Reports indicate Cleveland will be very active at the deadline.
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Way to put together the press release BG! TP for readability.

Yes, great thread!

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Way to put together the press release BG! TP for readability.

Yes, great thread!

Thanks.
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