Sully and Olynyk chosen for Rookie-Sophomore game for All-Stars

[D.o.s.]

Surprised Olynyk was chosen, Sullinger is clearly deserving.

Have you seen the rookie class at all this year ?

Olynyk's overall numbers aren't too shabby if you compare them to the entire class.

This is the point where we bring up the fact that the 2013 draft class was widely lauded to be awful, right?

[aingeforthree]

Surprised Olynyk was chosen, Sullinger is clearly deserving.

Have you seen the rookie class at all this year ?

Olynyk's overall numbers aren't too shabby if you compare them to the entire class.

This is the point where we bring up the fact that the 2013 draft class was widely lauded to be awful, right?

I think the better point is that you never judge a class until 3-4 years down the road.  I think a lot of players are going to develop & help a lot of teams when its all said and done from this class.  Olynyk included.

I never understood the point of judging a player like Olynyk when he's got so many adjustments to make from college to the pro's.  From offense to defense, to shooting outside of 15 ft, pick and roll, etc.  It's a huge difference & a whole new ballgame.

Let the man find out what he's being asked to do, what he needs to do, how to do it, and let him work on those things.

[obnoxiousmime]

Surprised Olynyk was chosen, Sullinger is clearly deserving.

Have you seen the rookie class at all this year ?

Olynyk's overall numbers aren't too shabby if you compare them to the entire class.

This is the point where we bring up the fact that the 2013 draft class was widely lauded to be awful, right?

I think the better point is that you never judge a class until 3-4 years down the road.  I think a lot of players are going to develop & help a lot of teams when its all said and done from this class.  Olynyk included.

I never understood the point of judging a player like Olynyk when he's got so many adjustments to make from college to the pro's.  From offense to defense, to shooting outside of 15 ft, pick and roll, etc.  It's a huge difference & a whole new ballgame.

Let the man find out what he's being asked to do, what he needs to do, how to do it, and let him work on those things.

I think you can be patient in judging high school players back in the day or even one and dones today. However, Olynyk is a three year college guy. It's fair to expect that if he's going to be a player that he would be showing more than what we've seen. It's just not looking good right now that he can be a guaranteed rotation guy.

When Ainge mentioned recently of picks being tradeable and drafted guys not being so due to being "exposed" in the league it was hard not think of olynyk.

[SHAQATTACK]

KO.....is doing nearly as good as Sully ...when Sully was a Rookie .

He was not a lottery pick.......be patient ...he is getting better.

[vinnie]

KO.....is doing nearly as good as Sully ...when Sully was a Rookie .

He was not a lottery pick.......be patient ...he is getting better.

Please don't compare KO to Sully. Sully is a potential all star. KO is a potential 8th/9th career guy,

[ImShakHeIsShaq]

Surprised Olynyk was chosen, Sullinger is clearly deserving.

Have you seen the rookie class at all this year ?

Olynyk's overall numbers aren't too shabby if you compare them to the entire class.

This is the point where we bring up the fact that the 2013 draft class was widely lauded to be awful, right?

I think the better point is that you never judge a class until 3-4 years down the road.  I think a lot of players are going to develop & help a lot of teams when its all said and done from this class.  Olynyk included.

I never understood the point of judging a player like Olynyk when he's got so many adjustments to make from college to the pro's.  From offense to defense, to shooting outside of 15 ft, pick and roll, etc.  It's a huge difference & a whole new ballgame.

Let the man find out what he's being asked to do, what he needs to do, how to do it, and let him work on those things.

I think you can be patient in judging high school players back in the day or even one and dones today. However, Olynyk is a three year college guy. It's fair to expect that if he's going to be a player that he would be showing more than what we've seen. It's just not looking good right now that he can be a guaranteed rotation guy.

When Ainge mentioned recently of picks being tradeable and drafted guys not being so due to being "exposed" in the league it was hard not think of olynyk.

I thought he was 2 years but either way, one of them he sat out the entire season. He was also a pg who became a big after a growth spurt so he hasn't even been a big long at all. Yea let's forget all that just to make your assessment sound better. 0.0

[byennie]

Sully has always been the higher ceiling prospect... at one point he was in the conversation as a future #1 overall pick. Ultimately he slipped at least 5-10 spots due to his back, maybe more.

That said, I think it's a little overboard to claim that KO is already at his ceiling as a prospect. He started a whopping 32 games at Gonzaga. It's not like he was a 100+ game starter in the ACC with little development over the past few years (and even those guys can improve at the next level). He's also averaging a respectable 15/10/3 per 40. Not exactly terrible for a rookie big man playing against vastly different competition with sporadic playing time and new teammates.

[BASS_THUMPER]

Oly game is far from its peak
might be the next Gen Dirk

[obnoxiousmime]

Surprised Olynyk was chosen, Sullinger is clearly deserving.

Have you seen the rookie class at all this year ?

Olynyk's overall numbers aren't too shabby if you compare them to the entire class.

This is the point where we bring up the fact that the 2013 draft class was widely lauded to be awful, right?

I think the better point is that you never judge a class until 3-4 years down the road.  I think a lot of players are going to develop & help a lot of teams when its all said and done from this class.  Olynyk included.

I never understood the point of judging a player like Olynyk when he's got so many adjustments to make from college to the pro's.  From offense to defense, to shooting outside of 15 ft, pick and roll, etc.  It's a huge difference & a whole new ballgame.

Let the man find out what he's being asked to do, what he needs to do, how to do it, and let him work on those things.

I think you can be patient in judging high school players back in the day or even one and dones today. However, Olynyk is a three year college guy. It's fair to expect that if he's going to be a player that he would be showing more than what we've seen. It's just not looking good right now that he can be a guaranteed rotation guy.

When Ainge mentioned recently of picks being tradeable and drafted guys not being so due to being "exposed" in the league it was hard not think of olynyk.

I thought he was 2 years but either way, one of them he sat out the entire season. He was also a pg who became a big after a growth spurt so he hasn't even been a big long at all. Yea let's forget all that just to make your assessment sound better. 0.0

What does any of that matter? I could easily use those facts as negatives. I'm just going by what I've seen so far. Maybe his experience as a big is less than usual for a 22 year-old, so what do we judge him as then? A two-year guy?

Anyway just because he's in his first year doesn't mean we're not allowed to have any opinion on him. Nobody is saying with 100% certainty he's a bust because that would be sillly.

[moiso]

KO.....is doing nearly as good as Sully ...when Sully was a Rookie .

He was not a lottery pick.......be patient ...he is getting better.

Please don't compare KO to Sully. Sully is a potential all star. KO is a potential 8th/9th career guy,

I was bashed by about 10 posters over the summer when I said I thought Sully would lead the team in scoring.  Most people weren't very high on Sully's potential last year, now suddenly half of the posters think he is a potential allstar.

Give KO more time.

[D.o.s.]

I think the 50/50 split was pretty solid on Sully.

You definitely might've been the only one thinking "leading scorer," but we can put that on Jeff Green's alleged emergence.

[BballTim]

Surprised Olynyk was chosen, Sullinger is clearly deserving.

Have you seen the rookie class at all this year ?

Olynyk's overall numbers aren't too shabby if you compare them to the entire class.

This is the point where we bring up the fact that the 2013 draft class was widely lauded to be awful, right?

  I put this in another thread, but I checked the last 9-10 years for rookies 6'9 or taller who averaged at least as many minutes, points and rebounds a game as KO is and it averages out to about 4 players a year. So he's not great, and btw his fg% is pretty poor but his production isn't alarmingly bad.

[D.o.s.]

I can believe that. I think I'm having Perry Jones syndrome with Olynyk--even though I haven't really been following any of the rookies picked after him. Aside from Pressey, of course.

[aingeforthree]

Surprised Olynyk was chosen, Sullinger is clearly deserving.

Have you seen the rookie class at all this year ?

Olynyk's overall numbers aren't too shabby if you compare them to the entire class.

This is the point where we bring up the fact that the 2013 draft class was widely lauded to be awful, right?

I think the better point is that you never judge a class until 3-4 years down the road.  I think a lot of players are going to develop & help a lot of teams when its all said and done from this class.  Olynyk included.

I never understood the point of judging a player like Olynyk when he's got so many adjustments to make from college to the pro's.  From offense to defense, to shooting outside of 15 ft, pick and roll, etc.  It's a huge difference & a whole new ballgame.

Let the man find out what he's being asked to do, what he needs to do, how to do it, and let him work on those things.

I think you can be patient in judging high school players back in the day or even one and dones today. However, Olynyk is a three year college guy. It's fair to expect that if he's going to be a player that he would be showing more than what we've seen. It's just not looking good right now that he can be a guaranteed rotation guy.

When Ainge mentioned recently of picks being tradeable and drafted guys not being so due to being "exposed" in the league it was hard not think of olynyk.

It doesn't matter if he's a 2, 3, or 4 year college guy.

He's being asked to do everything he DIDN'T do in college.  Namely shoot from 23 ft, 9 inches.  Let him get his feet wet and grade him after that , or tell us what he can or can't do.