Chad Ford says we will pick Kelly Olynyk

[sofutomygaha]

I haven't seen much of Olynyk, but if he is anywhere near the skilled player Morrison was, then he is a very good prospect.  I doubt he is though.  From the little I have seen, he looks closer to a poor man's Ryan Anderson.

What do mean? That's more perplexing to me than the morrison comparison. What does Kelly Olynyk have in common with Ryan Anderson?

[sofutomygaha]

he would have been a very good NBA player.  Something like Bargnani.

But... Bargnani isn't a very good NBA player 

Sure he is.  He isn't a star, but he is a very good player.  Most teams in the league would gladly have him in their rotation.  They just might not jump at paying him $10 million per year.

So you're saying Bargnani is a poor man's Jeff Green??

[kozlodoev]

he would have been a very good NBA player.  Something like Bargnani.

But... Bargnani isn't a very good NBA player 

Sure he is.  He isn't a star, but he is a very good player.  Most teams in the league would gladly have him in their rotation.  They just might not jump at paying him $10 million per year.

So you're saying Bargnani is a poor man's Jeff Green??

Plenty of teams will be happy to have Jeff Green at $10 million, given what $9 million will net you these days.

[kozlodoev]

I haven't seen much of Olynyk, but if he is anywhere near the skilled player Morrison was, then he is a very good prospect.  I doubt he is though.  From the little I have seen, he looks closer to a poor man's Ryan Anderson.

What do mean? That's more perplexing to me than the morrison comparison. What does Kelly Olynyk have in common with Ryan Anderson?

Nothing? To me, he looked like an energy with little to offer in terms of skills or fluidity.

Also, I just realized I didn't like him because he reminds me of a taller JR Giddens. Eeek.

[Yoki_IsTheName]

I for one liked Olynyk. I think his skill set would be useful for our lack of offense. I eanted the Celtics to draft him, but I changed my mind, because of Sully.

Sully can do what Olynyk will provide us. So lets just draft big that is more defense oriented.

[Tr1boy]

Like someone else mentioned, i rather also take my chances on Austin than get Olynyk. Austin can shoot the jump shot pretty good until he develops strength to battle on the inside, plus is a pretty good shot blocker and rebounder. Footspeed is good to defend out to the key and recover.

Olynyk can't become a much better defender. Thats like saying would a chiseled body Scola suddenly become a good defender?

We need above avg length and quickness to recover from the loss of KG as soon as next year. And the low iq, butter fingers Melo is not even an option imo

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Like someone else mentioned, i rather also take my chances on Austin than get Olynyk.

I respectfully disagree, Austin reminds me of a slightly better Austin Daye. He's a good shooter but did not show anything else. Of course, his lack of strength (emphasis on lack) would be a big issue.

I already said that since we have Sully, Olynyk should be the guy we draft, but I'd rather take him than Austin. Olynyk may not be a defensive presence, but he can score down low, be physical (atleast can fight a bit) and get to the line a lot. Austin is a very high risk pick, leaning on risk more.

[Tr1boy]

Like someone else mentioned, i rather also take my chances on Austin than get Olynyk.

I respectfully disagree, Austin reminds me of a slightly better Austin Daye. He's a good shooter but did not show anything else. Of course, his lack of strength (emphasis on lack) would be a big issue.

I already said that since we have Sully, Olynyk should be the guy we draft, but I'd rather take him than Austin. Olynyk may not be a defensive presence, but he can score down low, be physical (atleast can fight a bit) and get to the line a lot. Austin is a very high risk pick, leaning on risk more.

I agree on the risk. But either way its a risk imo. I rather take the chance on Austin pounding on some pounds vs Olynyk becoming even a decent defender in the nba.  He is going to have to cheat off big stars like Griffin. And Griffin has developed a jump shot good enough to nail consistently if left wide open. VS Austin might be pushed on the post but you got Sully to help you plus others to crash the net.

Not many in the nba also have the traditional post move vs dribbling to the basket or shooting jumpers. 

[Yoki_IsTheName]

Like someone else mentioned, i rather also take my chances on Austin than get Olynyk.

I respectfully disagree, Austin reminds me of a slightly better Austin Daye. He's a good shooter but did not show anything else. Of course, his lack of strength (emphasis on lack) would be a big issue.

I already said that since we have Sully, Olynyk should be the guy we draft, but I'd rather take him than Austin. Olynyk may not be a defensive presence, but he can score down low, be physical (atleast can fight a bit) and get to the line a lot. Austin is a very high risk pick, leaning on risk more.

I agree on the risk. But either way its a risk imo. I rather take the chance on Austin pounding on some pounds vs Olynyk becoming even a decent defender in the nba.  He is going to have to cheat off big stars like Griffin. And Griffin has developed a jump shot good enough to nail consistently if left wide open. VS Austin might be pushed on the post but you got Sully to help you plus others to crash the net.

Not many in the nba also have the traditional post move vs dribbling to the basket or shooting jumpers.

Yeah but you can't just "add pounds" and be strong right away. The kid is 205 pounds, literally some guards in the NBA can bench press this dude. If he gains pounds and quickly who knows, maybe he'll slow down or his knees might not take be able to take the added weight. Add pounds on him slowly and he'll be useless in the block for whatever time period we have to wait for him to get to that target weight. We can't rely on Sully to be able to safety net him all the time, as he's undersized.
 
If Austin is Kevin Durant offensively then you take him. But he's not. He's a bigger project than Melo, only with him he's more offensively polished. But that body frame is just not going to work. Not for his position.

Olynyk is a mobile big with decent to good footwork. He doesn't have to be a shutdown big, and I agree he wont be. He does though have the tools to be a decent defender and a good team to tell him which spots to fill when rotating. Add his low post game and a good shooting touch and you got at worst, you have poor mans Brook Lopez. Olynyk can get to the line A TON too, something we desperately need.

[Smartacus]

Like someone else mentioned, i rather also take my chances on Austin than get Olynyk.

I respectfully disagree, Austin reminds me of a slightly better Austin Daye. He's a good shooter but did not show anything else. Of course, his lack of strength (emphasis on lack) would be a big issue.

I already said that since we have Sully, Olynyk should be the guy we draft, but I'd rather take him than Austin. Olynyk may not be a defensive presence, but he can score down low, be physical (atleast can fight a bit) and get to the line a lot. Austin is a very high risk pick, leaning on risk more.

I agree on the risk. But either way its a risk imo. I rather take the chance on Austin pounding on some pounds vs Olynyk becoming even a decent defender in the nba.  He is going to have to cheat off big stars like Griffin. And Griffin has developed a jump shot good enough to nail consistently if left wide open. VS Austin might be pushed on the post but you got Sully to help you plus others to crash the net.

Not many in the nba also have the traditional post move vs dribbling to the basket or shooting jumpers.

Yeah but you can't just "add pounds" and be strong right away. The kid is 205 pounds, literally some guards in the NBA can bench press this dude. If he gains pounds and quickly who knows, maybe he'll slow down or his knees might not take be able to take the added weight. Add pounds on him slowly and he'll be useless in the block for whatever time period we have to wait for him to get to that target weight. We can't rely on Sully to be able to safety net him all the time, as he's undersized.
 
If Austin is Kevin Durant offensively then you take him. But he's not. He's a bigger project than Melo, only with him he's more offensively polished. But that body frame is just not going to work. Not for his position.

Olynyk is a mobile big with decent to good footwork. He doesn't have to be a shutdown big, and I agree he wont be. He does though have the tools to be a decent defender and a good team to tell him which spots to fill when rotating. Add his low post game and a good shooting touch and you got at worst, you have poor mans Brook Lopez. Olynyk can get to the line A TON too, something we desperately need.

There is something to be said for Austin's age however. The thing that scares me about Olynyk is simply that he is who he is going to be. I do like the poor man's Brook Lopez comparison however Brook does most of his work on the Low Block hitting shots that frankly will not be there for Olynyk unless he makes herculean strides on the low block.

Austin however is the prototypical stretch big man. I can certainly see why you'd be scared off by his weight, but I think you may be underrating his offensive potential. He doesn't have to be Durant with the 20'th(ish) pick, even if he peaks as a skinny Rashard Lewis, then that's tremendous value at our draft range.

The knock I always hear about Rondo is that his assists are always padded by playing off great shooters like Ray and Paul. The forgotten man in this line of thinking however is KG. I for one am not looking forward to the day where we no longer have an automatic and unstoppable 7 foot jump shooter to stretch the floor and hit timely baskets.

Isiah Austin has that kind of potential and moreover he has NBA 3 point range. Kelly Olynyk is a fine player but I'm looking for a specialist. Sullinger can already score in all the ways that Olynyk has shown to hit. Austin however will focus on the shot's that we don't want Sulley taking by making his bread on the perimeter. IMHO I'll take the 7 footer with NBA pedigree(Uncle Issac Austin was an NBA contributor who won MIP in 97) who fit's our rotation and has bonafide all star potential.

[celticsleyte]

I would be very surprised if we pick him.  Hopefully he is already gone when we pick.

[SHAQATTACK]

I would be very surprised if we pick him.  Hopefully he is already gone when we pick.

the way everybody prizes big centers ( except DOC)   ,  I suspect your right, he will be gone anyway.

I think and pray and hope Danny has given up on Doc Rivers small ball folly  and is now pushing to rebuild the team with a front line equal to any in the NBA.

[Snakehead]

Yuck...Adam Morrison 2.0

No thanks

Oh man.

Yeah they are both are white and have long hair and played for Gonzaga.  Same player.  Nailed it.

Obviously they're not the same player.  They don't play the same position, nor are their games similar.

My point is simply, what have any of the previous 'highly touted' Gonzaga players ever accomplished in the NBA?  Nothing, that is what.  I make the comparison based on that.  The type of players they recruit just don't translate well to the NBA.

NBA teams would be wise to stay away from any Gonzaga player in the 1st round.

John Stockton?

They have hardly had any other prospects.  To say "Adam Morrison sucked, lets not take any Gonzaga player" is very foolish.

To me, Olynyk's game, projecting improvement, is more fitting to the pros than college.

Bad form for race-baiting. The similarities don't end at skin color. It is a valid point that they are both Gonzaga prospects. Also, both come into the draft as super-efficient pure-scorer types with big questions about their athleticism and ability to play defense. Also both are 21 years old at the time of being drafted. AND they're both Canadian. Well, Morrison is from Montana, but that's practically Canada.

... race baiting?  What are you even talking about?  Stockton? He went to Gonzaga.

Confusing post.  They are not very similar players besides that... they're both Canadian?  Yeah all Canadians play the same, okay man.

[Tr1boy]

Olynyks bread and butter is driving to the basket and a jump shot. He has some decent post moves but against college length struggled, because he has only avg wingspan and poor lift. Defense suffers in general because of these same shortcomings plus he is not that strong and doesn't have exceptional footspeed

Olynyk in the nba will be a 6th man at best and won't be out there when defensive stops are required 

With the 16th pick we need the best we can get, especially ever with pp and kg nearing their exit. A complete player, preferably at the post position.  To me guys that fit this bill are

- Dieng (worries about offensive upside, though i would say eventually he should be good for 10 points a game in the nba)

- Plumlee (not dominating in either end, but would fit well in terms of how the celts are made up. Like a nice upgrade to Brandon Bass)

- Withey (shot blocking would deter opposing teams to drive in at will. Just a smarter, better Melo but with limited upside)

- Mitch Mcgary (personally don't think he will be a good fit. Too much like Sully. Foul prone)

- The x factor for me is, Andre Roberson. Sf yes, but his ability to defend multiple position, rebound and play above the rim will give the celts another dimension.

[rasta1]

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