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Re: If Avery Bradley develops passing/ball handling skills...
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2013, 12:34:22 PM »

Offline bucknersrevenge

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Only thing he I don't like about his game currently is that he's not much of a penetrator and seems perfectly comfortable settling for jumpers rather than attacking the basket. If he wants to take his game to that next level, he's gonna have to do that more consistently.
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Re: If Avery Bradley develops passing/ball handling skills...
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2013, 12:48:04 PM »

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I suppose it's possible he could become a better passer, as much of that type of skill is "knowledge" of the game, which can be aquired over time.

Don't see it possible he'll become much better at ball-handling, though.  It's very rare a players improves that type of a skill at this point in their career.

The only reason Bradley is able to competently play PG currently, from an offensive standpoint, is due to the offensive creation abilities of Pierce.  Bradley is really just a combo-guard, that is so [dang] good defensively, it allows him to be a starter.

Re: If Avery Bradley develops passing/ball handling skills...
« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2013, 01:10:01 PM »

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Bradley's the same player he was in college: a below-average ballhandler, good mid-range shooter off the dribble, tenacious defender, good spot-up shooter from three and poor finisher around the basket.  Really, he wasn't good finishing around the basket in college either.  It's extremely unlikely that Bradley's ballhandling and passing will progress enough for him to be a point guard.  Those skills go hand in hand too.  He's still a very valuable player regardless. 

Re: If Avery Bradley develops passing/ball handling skills...
« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2013, 01:24:16 PM »

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Bradley's the same player he was in college: a below-average ballhandler, good mid-range shooter off the dribble, tenacious defender, good spot-up shooter from three and poor finisher around the basket.  Really, he wasn't good finishing around the basket in college either.  It's extremely unlikely that Bradley's ballhandling and passing will progress enough for him to be a point guard.  Those skills go hand in hand too.  He's still a very valuable player regardless.

Have to disagree with you here. They tried to make him a true point guard in college, which he was awful at.

The player we've seen since Rondo went down has realized he doesn't need to facilitate the offense to play PG. He's just getting them into their sets, and moving the ball. He's a player built for this type of offense, and his abilities getting to the rim and finishing are getting better all the time.

Don't forget, the kid just came off two major shoulder surgeries, and was only able to start picking up weights less than a few months ago. Is it really any surprise that he has some trouble finishing through contact in the lane?

Re: If Avery Bradley develops passing/ball handling skills...
« Reply #19 on: March 18, 2013, 01:44:18 PM »

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Bradley's the same player he was in college: a below-average ballhandler, good mid-range shooter off the dribble, tenacious defender, good spot-up shooter from three and poor finisher around the basket.  Really, he wasn't good finishing around the basket in college either.  It's extremely unlikely that Bradley's ballhandling and passing will progress enough for him to be a point guard.  Those skills go hand in hand too.  He's still a very valuable player regardless.

Have to disagree with you here. They tried to make him a true point guard in college, which he was awful at.

The player we've seen since Rondo went down has realized he doesn't need to facilitate the offense to play PG. He's just getting them into their sets, and moving the ball. He's a player built for this type of offense, and his abilities getting to the rim and finishing are getting better all the time.

Don't forget, the kid just came off two major shoulder surgeries, and was only able to start picking up weights less than a few months ago. Is it really any surprise that he has some trouble finishing through contact in the lane?

I'm going to have to disagree with you too.  I remember watching his games and wondering why he played off the ball so much.  Then I saw his handle and understood.  Dogus Balbay played point for most of the season before going down with a season ending injury.  And then I'm sort of iffy from there but I'm sure they didn't try to turn him into a "pure point guard."

Re: If Avery Bradley develops passing/ball handling skills...
« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2013, 01:59:59 PM »

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At Texas they played him at SG almost entirely from the games I saw. But that was later during the Big 12 season, I didn't see their early non-conference games.

Re: If Avery Bradley develops passing/ball handling skills...
« Reply #21 on: March 18, 2013, 02:29:03 PM »

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Needs to just focus on improving his shot. At this point his ball handling and passing skills are what they are.  Offensively he needs to be more productive than the average replacement player.  That will be good enough given his defense.

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« Reply #22 on: March 18, 2013, 02:51:52 PM »

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I'm just happy he hasn't become Mateen Cleaves.

Re: If Avery Bradley develops passing/ball handling skills...
« Reply #23 on: March 18, 2013, 03:25:25 PM »

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I don't think AB developing into a PG will have any effect on Rondo's likeliness to be included in a deal.  How this season plays out will decide that and honestly, I think Danny (and us fans) probably already know the answer.

I also agree with some of the other posters.  AB is not a creater type PG and likely never will be so no need to force that.

Danny has always been willing to trade Rondo.  The only difference now is that Danny has likely changed his opinion on what he would take in return for him.  It used to be Chris Paul level player or nothing.  I think after seeing how this season plays out, and how we do in the playoffs, Danny may be more open to taking multiple key pieces for Rondo, than hoping to get that one superstar in return for Rondo and parts.

The irony of this whole thing is I bet if you ask around the league who has higher trade value (assuming both were healthy), the answer would likely be Avery over Rondo.

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« Reply #24 on: March 18, 2013, 03:34:45 PM »

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The irony of this whole thing is I bet if you ask around the league who has higher trade value (assuming both were healthy), the answer would likely be Avery over Rondo.

If that is true, it would have way more to do with contract size than with talent.
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Re: If Avery Bradley develops passing/ball handling skills...
« Reply #25 on: March 18, 2013, 03:44:19 PM »

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The irony of this whole thing is I bet if you ask around the league who has higher trade value (assuming both were healthy), the answer would likely be Avery over Rondo.

If that is true, it would have way more to do with contract size than with talent.
AB is going to have to get paid soon, so I don't think the contract is the differentiator here. 

No doubt, Rondo is the better talent of the two, but the one transcending skill that AB brings to the table (on the ball defense) has people around the league drooling or trembling. Depending how you want to look at it.

I really do think that his defense, youth, and potential for growth give him a higher trade value than Rondo at this point.  Would I trade AB? No way.  Would I trade Rondo?  I don't want to, but I'm listening.  I'm sure danny feels the same way.


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« Reply #26 on: March 18, 2013, 05:11:53 PM »

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The irony of this whole thing is I bet if you ask around the league who has higher trade value (assuming both were healthy), the answer would likely be Avery over Rondo.

If that is true, it would have way more to do with contract size than with talent.
AB is going to have to get paid soon, so I don't think the contract is the differentiator here. 

No doubt, Rondo is the better talent of the two, but the one transcending skill that AB brings to the table (on the ball defense) has people around the league drooling or trembling. Depending how you want to look at it.

I really do think that his defense, youth, and potential for growth give him a higher trade value than Rondo at this point.  Would I trade AB? No way.  Would I trade Rondo?  I don't want to, but I'm listening.  I'm sure danny feels the same way.

  I think you'd be pretty hard pressed to find GMs that value "on the ball defense" over "dominates playoff games". If a player like Bradley were more valuable than Rondo then Danny probably could have solved our center problem by trading Tony Allen, or could have greatly improved it this season by trading Courtney Lee.

Re: If Avery Bradley develops passing/ball handling skills...
« Reply #27 on: March 18, 2013, 05:15:50 PM »

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Bradley is the Tom Brady to Rondo's Bledsoe.