Rondo Trade with Portland

[indeedproceed]

Can we put a stop to threads involing trading Rondo? Especially ones that make no sense such as this one, and help us out in no way. Can we accept that Rondo is a top 3 point guard in this league (top 2 in my eyes) and accept how good he really is? Top 3 point guard in the league!! Who trades a player of that caliber? Oye!

It's funny, cuz before the trade deadline, I would've argued the point. When the Celtics win, it's blatantly obvious it's because in large part because of Rondo. When they lose, it's obvious how maddening Rondo's unique game can be, and how easy it is to talk yourself into believing that a less talented PG like say Mike Conley + supporting talent could make the team better as a whole.

Bill Simmons has it right this time. Good teams are stubborn.

[moiso]

rondo is the best point guard in the game, and he is signed to us on a budget contract long term. its the perfect situation. why would you trade that?

I think you can argue that Rondo is a peer among the best PGs in the game, but I don't think by any measure you can state it as fact. Could rondo have brought the clippers as far as CP3 did? Would he have done better with nj? With the suns? Could he have captained the spurs as well? Would he have done as good or better in okc?

Among those questions, only okc do I find probable.

I find them all to be probable.  The OKC one is the the one I would question the most.  And Chicago was pretty good without Rose this year.

[Army_of_One_Nation]

If Rajon plays the way he played in Game 5 of the 76ers series (even if he only does so for the 65 games not including the playoffs), there is only one player in the NBA that I would trade Rondo for.

Not Dwight Howard and his achy, post surgical back (not to mention his diva attitude of late), not LeBron James who is the best player in the world until the game is on the line, not Dwayne Wade who is getting up there in age and not to mention his health issues and issues with the coach, not Chris Paul who thinks he is the second coming of Christ, not Blake Griffin who couldn't make a 5 foot jump shot, certainly not Kobe because of his age, definitely not Pau Gasol, again, because of his age, not Carmelo Anthony who is the biggest cheap shot artist of all time, not Kevin Love because he plays for a team who's got nothing to lose year-in and year-out (therefore, I don't know if he will be the same player for a contending team). I will only trade Rondo for Kevin Durant.

And that is, if OKC throws in 3 future 1st rounders.

[BballTim]

rondo is the best point guard in the game, and he is signed to us on a budget contract long term. its the perfect situation. why would you trade that?

I think you can argue that Rondo is a peer among the best PGs in the game, but I don't think by any measure you can state it as fact. Could rondo have brought the clippers as far as CP3 did? Would he have done better with nj? With the suns? Could he have captained the spurs as well? Would he have done as good or better in okc?

Among those questions, only okc do I find probable.

  The only one I see as somewhat unlikely is the Nets but I don't think that making lottery teams into better lottery teams is the most important thing in a point guard, at least a point guard on a good team.

[Celtics4ever]

I was a big fan of us moving Allen.   I don't think we should trade Rondo.

[SHAQATTACK]

Would Danny consider trading Rondo for Portland's two 1st round draft picks #6 and #11 assuming lottery goes as planned?

Gives the Celtics even more cap space and plenty of options.
This would also allow the Celts to go after D. Williams .

I would do this if KG is retiring or asking for too much $$.

#6 - Jared Sullinger? Perry Jones?
#11 - Terrence Jones
Trade #21 and #22 with Houston for #16 and draft A. Rivers

no

[slamtheking]

Would Danny consider trading Rondo for Portland's two 1st round draft picks #6 and #11 assuming lottery goes as planned?

Gives the Celtics even more cap space and plenty of options.
This would also allow the Celts to go after D. Williams .

I would do this if KG is retiring or asking for too much $$.

#6 - Jared Sullinger? Perry Jones?
#11 - Terrence Jones
Trade #21 and #22 with Houston for #16 and draft A. Rivers

obviously a case of the glitz and glamour of the draft overcoming common sense here.

none of those players will have the career Rondo will have nor impact a game (in a positive way) that Rondo can.  I'd prefer to keep Rondo and only move him if the other team overpays to get him.  this would not be one of those situations.

[Potapenko Boxout]

Would Danny consider trading Rondo for Portland's two 1st round draft picks #6 and #11 assuming lottery goes as planned?

Gives the Celtics even more cap space and plenty of options.
This would also allow the Celts to go after D. Williams .

I would do this if KG is retiring or asking for too much $$.

#6 - Jared Sullinger? Perry Jones?
#11 - Terrence Jones
Trade #21 and #22 with Houston for #16 and draft A. Rivers

no

nonono. Edited.  Profanity and masked profanity are against forum rules and may result in discipline.nit. stop with these.

Rondo can't hit jump shots, we get it. He is still unreal

[Moranis]

Would Danny consider trading Rondo for Portland's two 1st round draft picks #6 and #11 assuming lottery goes as planned?

Gives the Celtics even more cap space and plenty of options.
This would also allow the Celts to go after D. Williams .

I would do this if KG is retiring or asking for too much $$.

#6 - Jared Sullinger? Perry Jones?
#11 - Terrence Jones
Trade #21 and #22 with Houston for #16 and draft A. Rivers

  How many drafts in the last 20 years have players at #6 and #11 that you'd rather have than Rondo?

Are you asking about actually the players taken at 6 and 11 or players reasonably available at 6 and 11, because that changes things a great deal as there have been a lot of great players drafted 7-10, while surprisingly few went at 6.  Likewise there were a number of great players in the 12-15 range, but again surprisingly few at 11.

[Bean_town fan]

I used to be in the 'the only Rondo trade should be a Rose or CP3 trade" but I wouldn't trade him for either now

[Bankshot]

I used to be in the 'the only Rondo trade should be a Rose or CP3 trade" but I wouldn't trade him for either now

[BballTim]

Would Danny consider trading Rondo for Portland's two 1st round draft picks #6 and #11 assuming lottery goes as planned?

Gives the Celtics even more cap space and plenty of options.
This would also allow the Celts to go after D. Williams .

I would do this if KG is retiring or asking for too much $$.

#6 - Jared Sullinger? Perry Jones?
#11 - Terrence Jones
Trade #21 and #22 with Houston for #16 and draft A. Rivers

  How many drafts in the last 20 years have players at #6 and #11 that you'd rather have than Rondo?

Are you asking about actually the players taken at 6 and 11 or players reasonably available at 6 and 11, because that changes things a great deal as there have been a lot of great players drafted 7-10, while surprisingly few went at 6.  Likewise there were a number of great players in the 12-15 range, but again surprisingly few at 11.

 Actually taken. I don't think Danny has the option of telling Stern he'll take whichever of 3-4 players will have the best career. Based on historical drafts, does he have to be in the top 50% to get equal value, the top 25%, or higher?

[2short]

I used to be in the 'the only Rondo trade should be a Rose or CP3 trade" but I wouldn't trade him for either now

3rd that one
haters gotta hate but trading rondo for most proposals makes NO sense

[Moranis]

Would Danny consider trading Rondo for Portland's two 1st round draft picks #6 and #11 assuming lottery goes as planned?

Gives the Celtics even more cap space and plenty of options.
This would also allow the Celts to go after D. Williams .

I would do this if KG is retiring or asking for too much $$.

#6 - Jared Sullinger? Perry Jones?
#11 - Terrence Jones
Trade #21 and #22 with Houston for #16 and draft A. Rivers

  How many drafts in the last 20 years have players at #6 and #11 that you'd rather have than Rondo?

Are you asking about actually the players taken at 6 and 11 or players reasonably available at 6 and 11, because that changes things a great deal as there have been a lot of great players drafted 7-10, while surprisingly few went at 6.  Likewise there were a number of great players in the 12-15 range, but again surprisingly few at 11.

 Actually taken. I don't think Danny has the option of telling Stern he'll take whichever of 3-4 players will have the best career. Based on historical drafts, does he have to be in the top 50% to get equal value, the top 25%, or higher?

well obviously you couldn't pick in retrospect, but given the vast quality of stars that were taken in the 7-10 range, there is a great chance that you could do better than Rondo at just 6, nonetheless 11.  Ainge has also been a pretty solid drafter so you would have to think he will get a player with at least one of the two picks, if not both. 

[BballTim]

Would Danny consider trading Rondo for Portland's two 1st round draft picks #6 and #11 assuming lottery goes as planned?

Gives the Celtics even more cap space and plenty of options.
This would also allow the Celts to go after D. Williams .

I would do this if KG is retiring or asking for too much $$.

#6 - Jared Sullinger? Perry Jones?
#11 - Terrence Jones
Trade #21 and #22 with Houston for #16 and draft A. Rivers

  How many drafts in the last 20 years have players at #6 and #11 that you'd rather have than Rondo?

Are you asking about actually the players taken at 6 and 11 or players reasonably available at 6 and 11, because that changes things a great deal as there have been a lot of great players drafted 7-10, while surprisingly few went at 6.  Likewise there were a number of great players in the 12-15 range, but again surprisingly few at 11.

 Actually taken. I don't think Danny has the option of telling Stern he'll take whichever of 3-4 players will have the best career. Based on historical drafts, does he have to be in the top 50% to get equal value, the top 25%, or higher?

well obviously you couldn't pick in retrospect, but given the vast quality of stars that were taken in the 7-10 range, there is a great chance that you could do better than Rondo at just 6, nonetheless 11.  Ainge has also been a pretty solid drafter so you would have to think he will get a player with at least one of the two picks, if not both. 

  I'd bet the number of years you'd get a player better than Rondo after the 6th pick isn't much better than 50-50 if it's even that high. The odds of ending up with equal value from those draft picks is fairly low.