Massive Trade Idea (to get draft picks

[slamtheking]

Simply put, this isn't happening.

More specifically:

Boston is going to give up $30 million of cap space to get Rashard Lewis, Ronnie Brewer and a pick Washington isn't giving up anyway while trying to maximize their profits this year by getting to the playoffs and getting as many home games as possible? That's not happening.

Free agency sucks this year after Williams and Howard - and there's no chance we get either. Cap space is irrelevant if we aren't going to sign anyone high quality. Moreover, isn't your point a contradiction in terms? If the pick is so valuable, then wouldn't it be worth taking back Lewis' garbage contract?

Washington is more likely to amnesty Lewis and dump Blatche and/or McGee for for a high pick this draft than to take Garnett aboard for a month, give up a future superstar that could be there in the top 2-3 picks, and open up cap space to go after Howard when he has no desire to play in Washington.

No one is taking either of those players. The whole [dang] team is AWFUL. Really wretched and terrible. They would be better off with a defensive center, and more draft choices to play with Wall. The Wizards CAN'T draft a superstar, because being drafted by the Wizards means becoming a one-on-one player who doesn't play defense. The Wizards need more better players, not one great player. ...what is John Wall doing for them? They are the second worst team in the league. It is not a lack of talent: it is a lack of leadership that is their problem.

Chicago is going to give up their ONLY backup center, and a decent defensive oriented one at that, along with a very good backup PG to get Ray for a playoff drive. I doubt it. They might send a first rounder in the future and Korver and Hamilton for Ray but that's about it.

This is just a terrible and unlikely trade idea.

Size is not the issue in the playoffs this year. Look at Miami. Even Dallas - they don't have Chandler. And while the Lakers are big with Bynum and Gasol, there is ...shrinkage, after that point. Minutes for stars go up in the playoiffs. Ray Allen can shoot the ball, and has been to the playoffs before. ...of all of your comments, this one surprises me the most. Ray Allen is a hall of famer. He is shooting almost 50% from behind the arc. This is Chicago's chance to win a title. ...besides, I'm sure Ronny Turiaf would waive his no trade clause to escape Washington if Chicago could sweeten the deal with a decent player.

Let me just say I don't think you made any point that made any logical sense, that I disagree with you completely and that the likelihood of such a trade is below zero and leave it at that.

Then why say anything at all?

Maybe what you mean is that I refuted most of the points you made, but that since you have no answer, you're backing off. Is that it?

Moreover, I conceded the point about the back-up center, and suggested Turiaf as a replacement. ...that is to say - if I have conceded one of your objections, and proposed a solution, you can't "completely disagree" can you?

While I admit that Washington would have to take a hard look at its culture to do this deal: how could it not? Any player drafted to Washington is going into a career black hole.

it's more like you're not getting the points Nick or I made: this is a bad deal and very unlikely to happen from any of these teams' perspectives. 

Washington isn't trading their 1st rounder this year much less send it out unprotected for the garbage you've proposed.  Harsh assessment, you bet.  KG, while not truly garbage at least for the C's or a contending team, is less than useless for a team going nowhere any time soon and is not going to a player in free agency (so KG's expiring deal means little to them).  You're comment about why the C's would take on Lewis is exactly why they'd just keep him.  He's expiring next year when free agency offers a much better crop of players. 

Consider this a better option for Wash: they sit on Lewis' deal until it expires.  They make a serious run at Hibbert as a UFA.  Indy can't match due to other money they have on the books.  Wash offers to take Hibbert in a S&T with Indy where they could ship out Mcgee at the same time to bring in the better young center and clear out a headcase at the same time.  not likely but a much better option for them than this deal.

bottom line, this is a bad deal and unlikely to happen.  your premises are all about making it palatable to a team that has no reason to move that pick.

[Lioney]

(First of all sorry my English. My English is not good)

I explane;

-Rondo can't shoot and you still get Brewer(Rondo FT %62, 3PT %24, Brewer FT ½60, 3PT ½29)

-Does Lewis play basketball? And next year get $23,8M(add Rondo $11M, Pierce $16,8M, Brewer $4,3M=$56M, no money for Green, Bass even Pietrus because of salary cap)

-We can't control lottery and look at our clippers pick now.

-KG and Ray our Bird Rights player. 

-West? Indi West? 32 years old now. Who cares? BG, TE  will become RFA(DC, GM one year later). JSmith and Monta available now if you want (ok, not sure Monta)

[pearljammer10]

That is a garbage deal for the Celts... Draft picks arent going to help us win this year or next. I dont think we are looking towards a full out "rebuilding" period, rather a restructuring period and we have the financial flexibility to do that. Unless we can get a legit young all star for ray or kevin, i let them both expire. And i especially dont trade them for Lewis who has probably the NBA's worst contract.