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Re: How can anyone stand to watch this team?
« Reply #75 on: February 18, 2012, 03:19:45 PM »

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I love watching this team whether they are bad or good.
Pretty much.

If you are on the bandwagon feel free to hop off.

The fact that a person doesn't enjoy watching the team go through painful stretches on offense or go through the motions on defense some nights doesn't mean they are "jumping off the bandwagon."

people are free to do what they like, but by definition, a bandwagon fan watches the team only when they are successful.

people can do whatever they want.  me personally, i have watched the celts for about 30 yrs thru all the great times and bad.


no, a bandwagon fan only pays attention / cares about a team when they are successful.

you can be a hardcore fan of a team and follow them very closely, but refuse to watch them play if they are playing like crap.

we can agree to disagree on the definition of a bandwagon fan then.  i think my definition is accurate and you have a different interpretation.  i think a "hardcore" fan would still watch, even if it is frustrating for them to do so.


Wikipedia:
Bandwagon Fan -- supporter of a sports team only during a period of success


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bandwagon%20fan

Various definitions on Urban Dictionary.

None of these definitions say anything about watching the actual games -- rather, being a bandwagon or fairweather fan is related to your actual interest in or support of a particular team.  If you only care about or actually cheer for a team when they are successful, you are a bandwagoner.


With respect to the definition of a "hardcore" fan, I think you might have a point there that a true "hardcore" fan would watch every single game no matter how bad the team is.  But a hardcore fan could also just not have the time or the means to watch every single game.  Personally, I don't know anybody who is a more hardcore fan of the Celtics than myself, yet I don't really have the ability to watch every game.  I look at every box score, read every game recap, post about every game before and after, read ESPN reactions and blog articles, look at Twitter during games, etc. 

All of those things I think are just as representative of my dedication as a fan of the Celtics (and the NBA in general) as watching the games themselves.

like i said b4, we can agree to disagree on defining terms.  of course real life gets in the way sometimes and people cant always watch every game, but saying ur not watching bc of poor play, constitutes a bandwagon fan to me (which is what i have said all along).

did u actually use urban dictionary as a reference....lol, smh ;D


find some better definitions of bandwagon fan online.  for defining colloquial terms like "bandwagon fan", urban dictionary actually is fairly useful, if only to see if there's a consistent trend in the "popular understanding" of such a term.  as i already said, there is a consistent trend -- no definitions i've read require a person to keep watching every game regardless of how bad the team is to keep from being a bandwagoner.


we can "agree to disagree" on what a bandwagon fan is, but seems to me that you've got your own personal definition which you seem to think is the honest-to-goodness definition of the term.

bottom line, it's a judgmental term that shouldn't be thrown around lightly

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Re: How can anyone stand to watch this team?
« Reply #76 on: February 18, 2012, 03:24:52 PM »

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I love watching this team whether they are bad or good.
Pretty much.

If you are on the bandwagon feel free to hop off.

The fact that a person doesn't enjoy watching the team go through painful stretches on offense or go through the motions on defense some nights doesn't mean they are "jumping off the bandwagon."

people are free to do what they like, but by definition, a bandwagon fan watches the team only when they are successful.

people can do whatever they want.  me personally, i have watched the celts for about 30 yrs thru all the great times and bad.


no, a bandwagon fan only pays attention / cares about a team when they are successful.

you can be a hardcore fan of a team and follow them very closely, but refuse to watch them play if they are playing like crap.

we can agree to disagree on the definition of a bandwagon fan then.  i think my definition is accurate and you have a different interpretation.  i think a "hardcore" fan would still watch, even if it is frustrating for them to do so.


Wikipedia:
Bandwagon Fan -- supporter of a sports team only during a period of success


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bandwagon%20fan

Various definitions on Urban Dictionary.

None of these definitions say anything about watching the actual games -- rather, being a bandwagon or fairweather fan is related to your actual interest in or support of a particular team.  If you only care about or actually cheer for a team when they are successful, you are a bandwagoner.


With respect to the definition of a "hardcore" fan, I think you might have a point there that a true "hardcore" fan would watch every single game no matter how bad the team is.  But a hardcore fan could also just not have the time or the means to watch every single game.  Personally, I don't know anybody who is a more hardcore fan of the Celtics than myself, yet I don't really have the ability to watch every game.  I look at every box score, read every game recap, post about every game before and after, read ESPN reactions and blog articles, look at Twitter during games, etc.  

All of those things I think are just as representative of my dedication as a fan of the Celtics (and the NBA in general) as watching the games themselves.

like i said b4, we can agree to disagree on defining terms.  of course real life gets in the way sometimes and people cant always watch every game, but saying ur not watching bc of poor play, constitutes a bandwagon fan to me (which is what i have said all along).

did u actually use urban dictionary as a reference....lol, smh ;D


find some better definitions of bandwagon fan online.  for defining colloquial terms like "bandwagon fan", urban dictionary actually is fairly useful, if only to see if there's a consistent trend in the "popular understanding" of such a term.  as i already said, there is a consistent trend -- no definitions i've read require a person to keep watching every game regardless of how bad the team is to keep from being a bandwagoner.


we can "agree to disagree" on what a bandwagon fan is, but seems to me that you've got your own personal definition which you seem to think is the honest-to-goodness definition of the term.

bottom line, it's a judgmental term that shouldn't be thrown around lightly, so you can keep your definition to yourself.

i have said before it is MY definition. i have said agree to disagree, which is a sign of respect for the other's viewpoint.  to be honest, i dont give a hoot what other people do or follow the team how they choose, but im expressing my thoughts in a public forum. we are responding to each other, so obviously we will share our own definitions/thoughts.  its a public forum to express individual thoughts and ideas, so i wont keep my definition to myself. im not labeling anyone specific, disrespecting anyone, or breaking any rules here....just providing my thoughts


Re: How can anyone stand to watch this team?
« Reply #77 on: February 18, 2012, 03:29:29 PM »

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