Rondo for Paul George+other assets

[bfrombleacher]

I'm not actually interested in trading anyone yet (least of all trading Rondo and Pierce) but I do love a good trade discussion.

As many have pointed out, Rondo is a bad fit for us. He wants to run and gun.

On the other hand, Indiana has expressed interest in Rondo before. Having Rondo, in my opinion, pushes them a lot closer to actual contention.


From the standpoint of our immediate contention, our lack of depth at the wing and inside scoring will be solved. Rondo is, without a doubt, a player on a whole other level compared to George so we'd probably look at getting George Hill or Collison, who are both better shooters than Rondo and theoretically better PG's for us (due to our lack of scoring).

From the standpoint of the future, many doubt that Rondo is someone you build around because of his lack of scoring. George is still very young and looks like he is well on his way to at least becoming a solid 20 PPG player (especially after he steps out of the shadow of Granger). Ideally we'd also look at getting picks from Indiana which are always useful.

[BballTim]

  Rondo isn't a bad fit for us. We made it to game 7 of the finals with this core 2 years ago and were arguably the best team in the league for much of last year. Getting better shooting point guards that can't run an offense or pass as well as Rondo will hurt our offense significantly.

[Eddie20]

I can't say I would be against the trade, but I do think Rondo has significantly more value than George and either PG. Plus, the Pacers are a good team, so I don't value their draft picks too much. That said, I would go for the following deal:

Rondo
Dooling

for

George
Collison
Hill
1st rd pick 2012

This trade would also give us more cap room this summer, provides youth, and strengthens an already strong bench. I would probably start George over Allen (in order to add athleticism to the starters), and then have Allen, Hill, Bass, Pietrus, and Wilcox as our second unit.

[Who]

I would be pretty tempted by Paul George for Rondo.

With the mindset of (1) running an opportunity play to make a run at Deron Williams + Dwight Howard this summer, or, should that not pan out [strong likelihood], (2) to setup and pursue a full blown rebuilding process. Get really bad, collect top five picks and rebuild around them and P.George. Need to dump Pierce too for this option.

[bfrombleacher]

  Rondo isn't a bad fit for us. We made it to game 7 of the finals with this core 2 years ago and were arguably the best team in the league for much of last year. Getting better shooting point guards that can't run an offense or pass as well as Rondo will hurt our offense significantly.

Rondo for Hibbert might make more sense for us but Larry knows better than to trade a top 5 center in a center deprived league.

How about Rondo is not the most effective he can be in the Boston system? He has mastered the playbook and works the other 4 players on the floor as if they are extensions of his own body making our offense look seamless but he would thrive immensely on the open floor and with athletic PnR partners. While I'm happy to say that Rondo's jumper is much improved, it still hinders our offense right now. (It should go without saying he brings to the table much, much more than running the team.)

That's not to say that George or Collison, both inferior PG's and players, would run the team better in Rondo's place because I'm sure they won't but they would play to their potential here.

I'm not hellbent on trading Rondo at all but what Indiana is willing to give up really intrigues me. George might have a higher ceiling than Rondo as a player (with his Kevin Durant-esque length and other god given gifts) and them getting Rondo would immediately make them contenders for years to come, which is quite the win-win situation.

It would hurt me so much to see Rondo go but if Indiana gives up enough, our future would look a lot brighter than keeping Rondo.

[bfrombleacher]

edit: deleted, double post sorry.

[Celtics4ever]

Rondo isn't a bad fit for us. We made it to game 7 of the finals with this core 2 years ago and were arguably the best team in the league for much of last year. Getting better shooting point guards that can't run an offense or pass as well as Rondo will hurt our offense significantly.

I would not be wasting your breath on this one.   Some people here don't understand that your PG is a passing position and not a defensive stopper who makes bad decisions.

[gift]

i like paul george, but i think he's starting to become overvalued (good job, pacers!).  he has a ton of potential, but at this point it's still potential.  we have to remember that he is a gamble, not a sure thing.

also, does anyone think he's really 6'10"? he looks much shorter than that still.

[jambr380]

I don't really want to trade Rondo and I wouldn't do anything until after the season, but this is the kind of dealthat could either make us really really good (Howard AND Williams) or put us in immediate rebuilding mode - definitely interesting and really the only way I would ever consider dealing Rondo.

[BballTim]

  Rondo isn't a bad fit for us. We made it to game 7 of the finals with this core 2 years ago and were arguably the best team in the league for much of last year. Getting better shooting point guards that can't run an offense or pass as well as Rondo will hurt our offense significantly.

Rondo for Hibbert might make more sense for us but Larry knows better than to trade a top 5 center in a center deprived league.

How about Rondo is not the most effective he can be in the Boston system? He has mastered the playbook and works the other 4 players on the floor as if they are extensions of his own body making our offense look seamless but he would thrive immensely on the open floor and with athletic PnR partners.

  I might agree with this, but the point of a trade should be to make the Celts better, not put Rondo into a situation where he'd put up better stats.

[wdleehi]

No.


That is a player I would want to add to a rebuilding Rondo team, not a player I would want to replace Rondo with for rebuilding plans.

[Shots]

No.


That is a player I would want to add to a rebuilding Rondo team, not a player I would want to replace Rondo with for rebuilding plans.

I'll second this. George would be among the most complimentary players to Rondos style of play. Sadly I do not see how the Cs would be able to obtain him. My hope is that Indiana goes for Eric Gordon in the offseaason, which would make George (or Granger) redundant, or too pricy to come off the bench.

[Celtics18]

Some people have started pointing this out, but I think the Paul George hype is a little over the top right now.  I've seen him play thrice so far this season, and I've looked at his numbers, and while he looks like a good young prospect, I don't see that there's any evidence that he's a surefire superstar in this league.

[BballTim]

Some people have started pointing this out, but I think the Paul George hype is a little over the top right now.  I've seen him play thrice so far this season, and I've looked at his numbers, and while he looks like a good young prospect, I don't see that there's any evidence that he's a surefire superstar in this league.

  I'd tend to agree. I'm not saying he's a bad player, but scoring seems to be his best asset and I don't think he's shown that he's a dominant scorer.