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Re: Games Cancelled Thru 11/30
« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2011, 04:37:42 PM »

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Well, I was rather concerned about a potentially compressed 82 game season for our team, so this may be a blessing in disguise.

No, there's no blessing in disguise. There isn't going to be a full season and for the fans that really su*ks.

If they don't bother to start until January or February, not only will I not even bother to watch, I'll never watch basketball again.

Then Stern, the players and owners can come to my house and negotiate BRI with me so I can start watching again.

Well, that's fine if you choose to do that (Not watch basketball again).

But after this latest breakdown, I'm a bit more convinced that the owners seem to be trying to fleece the players.

Just my take.

For the players to come down from 57 to 52.5? Now the owners want 50-50?

Someone here may be more knowledgeable about how much money lost that would mean for the players, but now it seems as if David Stern and Co may be asking for a bit too much, IMO.

Why don't they get to 51-49, lol....this is getting ridiculous.

But for me I'd be perfectly comfortable with the games starting a week or two before Christmas, with 60-70 games total in the season.

That would set our Celtics up quite nicely, I think. For our older team that would, to me, be a blessing in disguise.

That would probably help LA, too. They are just about as old as Boston.

Hmmm...well it's up to personal interpertation. To be quite honest, in my opinion, I don't think the owners are being that unreasonable. I think 50/50 split is actually quite fair. This is a partnership between players and owners. Aren't the players making enough money from their contracts? Why do they also need more than 50 percent of the BRI split?

As for the season starting around Christmas time, I also wouldn't mind that either. But at this point, I think both sides are clearly dug in for the long-haul. If they wouldn't come to terms on a full season, I just don't see how on earth they come to terms after lost revenue from missed games.


And your statement (aren't the players making enough money?) is where I have the most heartburn, admittedly.

I feel the same way as you do, gpap.

As a fan, if you told me that an NBA player would be making "just" 6 million per year vice 9 million (if the owners get their way)....yeah that part seems ridiculous to me.

I have no clue about how the average NBA player spends their money.....if they have charity ventures that they are involved with, then I have no idea why they aren't introducing that into the meetings...or maybe they are, behind closed doors.

Maybe if the players spun this towards the media in a different light, then maybe they'd get some momentum.

But from what I've seen, David Stern is winning the media war hands down. He'd probably have a lucrative career in Hollywood if he chose to, lol.

Re: Games Cancelled Thru 11/30
« Reply #16 on: October 29, 2011, 04:50:08 PM »

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For my last post - I keep forgetting that David Stern is just the go-between for the owners.

I am assuming that he isn't the bad guy in this thing.

I think it's just a few owners that are keeping a hard stance with this lockout.

Re: Games Cancelled Thru 11/30
« Reply #17 on: October 29, 2011, 05:30:56 PM »

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Well, I was rather concerned about a potentially compressed 82 game season for our team, so this may be a blessing in disguise.

No, there's no blessing in disguise. There isn't going to be a full season and for the fans that really su*ks.

If they don't bother to start until January or February, not only will I not even bother to watch, I'll never watch basketball again.

Then Stern, the players and owners can come to my house and negotiate BRI with me so I can start watching again.

I never really understood that sort of response to a strike/lockout.  Do I think its silly that they're  battling over money? Yes.  But ultimately I really only care about the games they play.  When they decide they want to play them again I'll watch them because I enjoy watching basketball.  If I ever stop enjoying the product on the court I'll stop watching (and I must say I enjoy the product less and less every year so I watch less and less already).

It's actually quite easy to understand the response. Right now, the owners and players are CLEARLY showing a lack of respect and caring for the fans by sacrificing games to fatten their wallets.

As a result, it's a very natural and understandable reaction on my part to be upset by this. Why should I just be taken for granted and expected to watch when all these idtiots in the NBA decide to stop acting like children?

Not to mention, Kevin Garnett has specfically been reported as being one of the biggest children in this whole mess.

Quite frankly, I am actually quite shocked and disappointed that other fellow NBA fans would just be willing to follow the league like sheep when the lockout ends, after they clearly showed they don't care about us.

Maybe "understood" was the wrong word.  I get why you would feel that way, and I don't begrudge you that, I just don't feel nearly as invested in the nuts and bolts of the NBA business - I just like watching them play.

Yeah.  gpap, I would personally love to watch the games less to prove a point to them about my disappointment in them for not coming together during this lockout.  But, for me to watch less games, I would hurting myself in preventing myself from doing something I like to do.  I don't watch games because I feel that the players have a respect for me and are playing hard for me, the fan.  I think they are playing as competitive individuals and are playing to be the best.  That's why I watch and that's not going to change after the lockout.
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Re: Games Cancelled Thru 11/30
« Reply #18 on: October 30, 2011, 09:37:13 PM »

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At Action 781 - Totally understandable. And that's why I am so upset by this NBA lockout. Because something that I really love to watch and follow (I was even doing an NBA talk radio show at my radio station) is now taken away from me because of greed.

Greed from both owners and players.

As I was saying earlier, if the season can start by Christmas at the latest, I'll be happy because at least most of the season would've been saved.

If the season doesn't begin until late January/February, then half the season will be gone and there will be no point in even watching.

But, that's just me.

Re: Games Cancelled Thru 11/30
« Reply #19 on: October 30, 2011, 10:11:20 PM »

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well...kinda good for me

no nba i wont drink as much...and think of how much cash i would save not gettin them 40oz...

like i said kinda good for me...


*sippin*


Re: Games Cancelled Thru 11/30
« Reply #20 on: October 31, 2011, 10:24:13 AM »

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well...kinda good for me

no nba i wont drink as much...and think of how much cash i would save not gettin them 40oz...

like i said kinda good for me...


*sippin*



I am really starting to hope they just cancel the rest of the season (although, admittedly it is mostly a rationalization).  I will be starting grad school in January, and both the time spent going to/watching games, and the money spent on my season tickets could definitely go to better use at this point in time. 

So go ahead, cancel the season...and they can just hope that people like me don't decide the money is better kept in my pocket, after saving it this winter.