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Re: D West addition
« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2010, 11:32:16 AM »

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My only concern is the bench is not balanced. Assuming Perk gets healthy, you have two small-ish guards (Nate, DWest) backing up Rondo (a smallish guard who will play lots of minutes) and Ray. You have Daniels backing up Pierce. And then you have JO or Shaq, Perk, and BBD for bigs all of whom can be great compliments to KG, but I don't see another good pairing of bigs when KG is out.

For me it comes down to Daniels and Ray - if you are okay using them at SF, then Doc should be able to make things work - but it probably means West or Nate is going to get a lot less minutes then they'd like.

Re: D West addition
« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2010, 11:58:50 AM »

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My only concern is the bench is not balanced. Assuming Perk gets healthy, you have two small-ish guards (Nate, DWest) backing up Rondo (a smallish guard who will play lots of minutes) and Ray. You have Daniels backing up Pierce. And then you have JO or Shaq, Perk, and BBD for bigs all of whom can be great compliments to KG, but I don't see another good pairing of bigs when KG is out.

For me it comes down to Daniels and Ray - if you are okay using them at SF, then Doc should be able to make things work - but it probably means West or Nate is going to get a lot less minutes then they'd like.


I disagree about the bigs.  With the exception of Perk and Shaq on the court at the same time (which will work against certain teams like when LA has Bynum and Gasol out there), I don't see the issue. 

Re: D West addition
« Reply #17 on: October 08, 2010, 12:03:01 PM »

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We lost game seven, on the road, by four, without Perkisn adn Ray being banged up...

This team stays healthy, we will be crushing people this year, including the Lakers and Heat.

I've always loved Delonte's game. He's no all star but he's almost like a starter coming off your bench. Nate and DWest have the ability to light you up for a quick 20 points on almost any night. They should wreak some pertty good havoc this year.

Our second unit is going to do alot of damage. I love it.

Re: D West addition
« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2010, 12:12:13 PM »

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My only concern is the bench is not balanced. Assuming Perk gets healthy, you have two small-ish guards (Nate, DWest) backing up Rondo (a smallish guard who will play lots of minutes) and Ray. You have Daniels backing up Pierce. And then you have JO or Shaq, Perk, and BBD for bigs all of whom can be great compliments to KG, but I don't see another good pairing of bigs when KG is out.

For me it comes down to Daniels and Ray - if you are okay using them at SF, then Doc should be able to make things work - but it probably means West or Nate is going to get a lot less minutes then they'd like.

What about the following:

Delonte or Nate
Marquis or Delonte
Lasme
Baby
Jermaine

This is making a BIG assumption that a) Lasme makes the team b) Lasme can defend the 3 very well. (I'm just assuming this is a possibility because he looks long and athletic for the 3).

Re: D West addition
« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2010, 12:18:25 PM »

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My only concern is the bench is not balanced. Assuming Perk gets healthy, you have two small-ish guards (Nate, DWest) backing up Rondo (a smallish guard who will play lots of minutes) and Ray. You have Daniels backing up Pierce. And then you have JO or Shaq, Perk, and BBD for bigs all of whom can be great compliments to KG, but I don't see another good pairing of bigs when KG is out.

For me it comes down to Daniels and Ray - if you are okay using them at SF, then Doc should be able to make things work - but it probably means West or Nate is going to get a lot less minutes then they'd like.

What about the following:

Delonte or Nate
Marquis or Delonte
Lasme
Baby
Jermaine

This is making a BIG assumption that a) Lasme makes the team b) Lasme can defend the 3 very well. (I'm just assuming this is a possibility because he looks long and athletic for the 3).


Lasme should only see the floor in cases of multiple injuries (if by miracle he makes the team.)




Re: D West addition
« Reply #20 on: October 08, 2010, 12:23:06 PM »

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My only concern is the bench is not balanced. Assuming Perk gets healthy, you have two small-ish guards (Nate, DWest) backing up Rondo (a smallish guard who will play lots of minutes) and Ray. You have Daniels backing up Pierce. And then you have JO or Shaq, Perk, and BBD for bigs all of whom can be great compliments to KG, but I don't see another good pairing of bigs when KG is out.

For me it comes down to Daniels and Ray - if you are okay using them at SF, then Doc should be able to make things work - but it probably means West or Nate is going to get a lot less minutes then they'd like.

Big Baby has been showing me some stuff here, I think that he’s playing PF whenever KG isn’t there. Glen seems to have the outside touch that he showed a couple years ago, except now he’s starting to earn the respect of the refs. If BBD can have his FTA be anywhere near 10 (per-36) that would be huge for this team.

Re: D West addition
« Reply #21 on: October 08, 2010, 12:34:48 PM »

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My only concern is the bench is not balanced. Assuming Perk gets healthy, you have two small-ish guards (Nate, DWest) backing up Rondo (a smallish guard who will play lots of minutes) and Ray. You have Daniels backing up Pierce. And then you have JO or Shaq, Perk, and BBD for bigs all of whom can be great compliments to KG, but I don't see another good pairing of bigs when KG is out.

For me it comes down to Daniels and Ray - if you are okay using them at SF, then Doc should be able to make things work - but it probably means West or Nate is going to get a lot less minutes then they'd like.


I disagree about the bigs.  With the exception of Perk and Shaq on the court at the same time (which will work against certain teams like when LA has Bynum and Gasol out there), I don't see the issue. 

I agree (with wdleehi) and disgree (with Brendan), G-Baby Davis and J ONeil is an awesome 2nd unit front court.

Re: D West addition
« Reply #22 on: October 08, 2010, 01:30:58 PM »

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My only concern is the bench is not balanced. Assuming Perk gets healthy, you have two small-ish guards (Nate, DWest) backing up Rondo (a smallish guard who will play lots of minutes) and Ray. You have Daniels backing up Pierce. And then you have JO or Shaq, Perk, and BBD for bigs all of whom can be great compliments to KG, but I don't see another good pairing of bigs when KG is out.

For me it comes down to Daniels and Ray - if you are okay using them at SF, then Doc should be able to make things work - but it probably means West or Nate is going to get a lot less minutes then they'd like.
It is the bench. How perfect can you expect players 6-10 to be?

The 3 guys that i think don't work together pair up are Erden, Shaq and Perk. I think JO and Baby have enough of a midrange game to pair with the non-shooter bigs.

If Nate, Delonte and Pierce are in, 2 non-shooting bigs can work.

Re: D West addition
« Reply #23 on: October 08, 2010, 01:31:07 PM »

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Dwest looked undersized at SG - I don't want him at SF. Marquis or Ray in a pinch for 3 guard lineups; but like Lasme's def. potential and his ability to play PF for running lineups. Erden also runs well.

Re: D West addition
« Reply #24 on: October 08, 2010, 01:36:25 PM »

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Do we want Nate in the mindset of setting people up? He is better at the 2 because he is an excellent scorer and should look to shoot. Delonte can look to pass and just take open looks.

Re: D West addition
« Reply #25 on: October 08, 2010, 01:38:26 PM »

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Very hard to guard 3 3pt. shooters. Doc will use Dwest to do this more once he serves his time. DWest, Nate, Ray, PP (Wafer) all legit 3 pt. threats.

We loose Sheed but he hurt our rebounding playing outside, so like this lineup better.

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« Reply #26 on: October 10, 2010, 02:22:37 AM »

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The Best part of having Dwest on the team is that Ray Allen doesn't have to face him anymore.  Ray Ray had the toughest time with Redz....Ray ray just wasn't efficient offensively with West guarding him. 

They should both make each other better players...

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« Reply #27 on: October 10, 2010, 06:24:14 AM »

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The Best part of having Dwest on the team is that Ray Allen doesn't have to face him anymore.  Ray Ray had the toughest time with Redz....Ray ray just wasn't efficient offensively with West guarding him. 

They should both make each other better players...

We're really so well set with both our little guys and our big guys.  It's just that one weakness of a big, defensive backup 3...

Re: D West addition
« Reply #28 on: October 10, 2010, 09:18:35 AM »

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The Best part of having Dwest on the team is that Ray Allen doesn't have to face him anymore.  Ray Ray had the toughest time with Redz....Ray ray just wasn't efficient offensively with West guarding him. 

They should both make each other better players...

Pretty sure Ray could run circles around me.  ;D
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Re: D West addition
« Reply #29 on: October 10, 2010, 11:03:19 AM »

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The Best part of having Dwest on the team is that Ray Allen doesn't have to face him anymore.  Ray Ray had the toughest time with Redz....Ray ray just wasn't efficient offensively with West guarding him. 

They should both make each other better players...

Pretty sure Ray could run circles around me.  ;D


Just the same, glad you are a Celtics fan instead of a Heat band wagoner.   ;D