Shane Battier, The perfect fit?

[Goldstar88]

This guy would be the perfect backup for the 2,3 positons. Big body 6'8'', 230 lbs, good defender, three point threat, and an overall great lockeroom guy. He doesnt come with baggage like a Josh Howard and will appreciate the national anthem. Houston is stacked with wing players and owe Battier the opportunity to play for a contender at this point in his career. I feel like the celtics need a talented wing like Battier or Howard to even compete with Miami.

Thoughts?

[Jon]

He is the perfect fit. 

However, how exactly are we supposed to obtain him?

[Chris]

He is the perfect fit. 

However, how exactly are we supposed to obtain him?

The only scenario I could see the C's get Battier is if Houston tries to make a deal for a star, and the team they are trading with would prefer Sheed's contract, and a first round pick from the C's over Battier.

For example, I think something like this could make some sense:

Boston sends Sheed, #1
Boston gets Battier

Houston sends Jeffries, Battier, Brooks, Knicks 2012 first rounder
Houston gets Danny Granger, TJ Ford

Indy sends Ford and Granger
Indy gets Sheed, Jeffries, Brooks, and 2 first rounders

[Goldstar88]

He is the perfect fit. 

However, how exactly are we supposed to obtain him?

Sheeds contract,  a mill in cash, and future first round picks.

[billysan]

A much better deal that would benefit both teams is Troy Murphy and a 2nd rounder for Perk and Sheed. I know a lot of the Perk lovers (and I am one) will be naysayers, but this improves us a bunch on the front line with KG, JO and Murphy as the rotation with Baby getting 'energy guy' minutes at the end of each quarter.

Also clears a bunch of salary for both teams at the end on next season while still giving them a chance to resigning a starting caliber big for a sign and trade if they decide that is best. Gives Indy a nice trade chip in Sheed if they want and adds a pick for us that we will need.

Works on the ESPN Trade Machine..

[action781]

Me being GM:  That trade would definitely improve Houston, but I don't know if Indy does it.  I'd think Granger would be hard to get from them.  They have a decent core and a ton of cap flexibility next season.  I think they really should keep Granger and build around him through the draft.

Me actually responding to the thread:  I agree with Chris that this is the type of trade we would need to do to get Battier.  Help a 3rd team shed salary while netting the Rockets a very good player in return.  I'm trying to think but can't come up with any ideas.  They could sure use a PF as insurance if Scola gets an offer that it would be a poor decision to match. 

[Bankshot]

I would love Battier, but he seems like a long shot.

[clover]

A much better deal that would benefit both teams is Troy Murphy and a 2nd rounder for Perk and Sheed. I know a lot of the Perk lovers (and I am one) will be naysayers, but this improves us a bunch on the front line with KG, JO and Murphy as the rotation with Baby getting 'energy guy' minutes at the end of each quarter.

Also clears a bunch of salary for both teams at the end on next season while still giving them a chance to resigning a starting caliber big for a sign and trade if they decide that is best. Gives Indy a nice trade chip in Sheed if they want and adds a pick for us that we will need.

Works on the ESPN Trade Machine..

Troy's a nice player, but that means we've got nothing but vet minimums to fill out our wing backups.  What are you thinking, we keep Daniels and settle for that?  I think Sheed really should go for a long and strong, defensive 2/3 and we're good enough with someone like Kwame added to the front court for the minimum.

[Jon]

A few thoughts.

1) I don't see Sheed's salary combined with anything else we have to offer really being enough unless we maybe thought about including Perk.  I don't think Houston is willing to give him up for just cap space when they could probably get more.

2) I agree with Chris that a third team would probably have to be in place for it to work.  

3) Murphy's interesting, but given our situation at the wing spot right now, I don't love the idea of using our only trade chip to acquire another big.  

But going back to #1, if we're going to trade Perk, it might work here.  KG, Jermaine, and BBD could really play most of the 4/5 minutes by themselves, meaning that our 4th big wouldn't really need to play more than 10 mpg or so.  

If we could upgrade the 2/3 spots that much (Battier), it might be something to think about, particularly if Danny isn't thinking he can/wants to re-sign Perk anyway.  

Though further digressing, Perk's injury may hurt his chances at big money next summer.  

[Blooroo22]

You mean this guy?

[billysan]

A few thoughts.

1) I don't see Sheed's salary combined with anything else we have to offer really being enough unless we maybe thought about including Perk.  I don't think Houston is willing to give him up for just cap space when they could probably get more.

2) I agree with Chris that a third team would probably have to be in place for it to work.  

3) Murphy's interesting, but given our situation at the wing spot right now, I don't love the idea of using our only trade chip to acquire another big.  

But going back to #1, if we're going to trade Perk, it might work here.  KG, Jermaine, and BBD could really play most of the 4/5 minutes by themselves, meaning that our 4th big wouldn't really need to play more than 10 mpg or so.  

If we could upgrade the 2/3 spots that much (Battier), it might be something to think about, particularly if Danny isn't thinking he can/wants to re-sign Perk anyway.  

Though further digressing, Perk's injury may hurt his chances at big money next summer.  

Good points except, I dont see Battier helping at all as a 2, he is more of a 3/4 IMO. I would be completely satisfied if we can add him and a rotation big. The thing we need is length though on our frontline.

As to keeing Daniels as the wing depth, I think that is going to be a reality very soon. We need the length on the frontline that Murphy would Give us, not to mention the offense. If we still want to add a quality wing, then why not use Baby as the trade chip?

Perk's value is certainly going to be diminished. Would you rather be offering Murphy 3 years at 30 million or Perk after next season? I think the answer although painful, is obvious.

[action781]

A few thoughts.

1) I don't see Sheed's salary combined with anything else we have to offer really being enough unless we maybe thought about including Perk.  I don't think Houston is willing to give him up for just cap space when they could probably get more.

2) I agree with Chris that a third team would probably have to be in place for it to work.  

3) Murphy's interesting, but given our situation at the wing spot right now, I don't love the idea of using our only trade chip to acquire another big.  

But going back to #1, if we're going to trade Perk, it might work here.  KG, Jermaine, and BBD could really play most of the 4/5 minutes by themselves, meaning that our 4th big wouldn't really need to play more than 10 mpg or so.  

If we could upgrade the 2/3 spots that much (Battier), it might be something to think about, particularly if Danny isn't thinking he can/wants to re-sign Perk anyway.  

Though further digressing, Perk's injury may hurt his chances at big money next summer.  

Good points except, I dont see Battier helping at all as a 2, he is more of a 3/4 IMO. I would be completely satisfied if we can add him and a rotation big. The thing we need is length though on our frontline.

As to keeing Daniels as the wing depth, I think that is going to be a reality very soon. We need the length on the frontline that Murphy would Give us, not to mention the offense. If we still want to add a quality wing, then why not use Baby as the trade chip?

Perk's value is certainly going to be diminished. Would you rather be offering Murphy 3 years at 30 million or Perk after next season? I think the answer although painful, is obvious.

I've never once seen Battier guard a 4, but I have seen him guard 2's (Kobe).  And he always plays on the perimeter, never in the post.  So I'd say that even though he has height, he's more of a 2/3. 

[billysan]

I've never once seen Battier guard a 4, but I have seen him guard 2's (Kobe).  And he always plays on the perimeter, never in the post.  So I'd say that even though he has height, he's more of a 2/3.  

Good point, TP. I also now remember him doing a fair job on Kobe. I still also remember him covering some first and second unit PF very well in the past, specifically Boozer in one game I watched. I do think he is an excellent team defender and rebounder, as well as decent shooter. The question would be, is he a long term addition? We can certainly get him for Sheeds contract and a future first or cash IMO.

[indeedproceed]

Battier is the perfect fit for every NBA team. He makes everyone around him better, and offenses are notoriously more efficient when he is on the floor, needless to say the defense improves as well.

That's why we can't afford him. He might only be a role player, but he's the best role player in the NBA.

[RockinRyA]

he's been one of my faves since ages ago. i love his game. but i dont think we can acquire him.