What is Big Baby thinking?

[MBz]

Wow, all the negativity after Baby helps win a playoff game.  Of course they don't win  that game without Tony Allen for sure, but they don't win without Baby's rebounding either.  At least wait till he helps lose a game for you before complaining about the kid.

Agreed.  Sure he only shot 2-6, but I thought he played great overall.  He really helped this team win.  According to 82games.com 18% of his total shots are blocked, while 25% of his inside shots are blocked.  Who would be better?  Leon Powe?  He gets 16% of his shots blocked and 19% of his inside shots blocked.  He's a backup player for a reason.  He's not a starter, celtics fans need to stop being so critical of every player on the team.  We are not going to get 12 all-star players.

Leon Powe's comparative block rate doesn't change the fact that BBD absolutely has to convert a higher percentage of his inside looks.

I'd also be curious to know the percent of shots that he misses because his shot is altered.  I don't think they have a stat on that, but even when his shot isn't blocked, he often misses easy shots trying to avoid the long reach of opposing defenders. 

Still, I wouldn't be surprised if Leon's poor in that area as well.  If you recall back to 2008, Powe and BBD both struggled against long teams like Atlanta and Cleveland and looked better when we played less athletic/lengthy (or in the case of the Lakers, defensively soft) teams. 

Yeah that would be an interesting stat to check out.  I just don't think we should be worried this much about a guy who only takes 5-6 shots a game. 

[Fafnir]

I certainly hope that when I see Glen Davis' shots getting blocked on a regular basis next year that he is playing for another team.

56 percent of Glen Davis' shots have come close to the basket this year, 26 percent of those shots have been blocked. That is atrocious.

Glen Davis is the only player that is able to get offensive rebounds. He has an ability to draw the contact and still get his shot off.

Last night baby played awesome... this thread is ridiculous.

Really?

He had an awful first half but his second half was very good. If he puts up such a clunker of a half I think its fair to criticize him. Especially since this is an old thread someone dregged up.

[Fafnir]

Wow, all the negativity after Baby helps win a playoff game.  Of course they don't win  that game without Tony Allen for sure, but they don't win without Baby's rebounding either.  At least wait till he helps lose a game for you before complaining about the kid.

Agreed.  Sure he only shot 2-6, but I thought he played great overall.  He really helped this team win.  According to 82games.com 18% of his total shots are blocked, while 25% of his inside shots are blocked.  Who would be better?  Leon Powe?  He gets 16% of his shots blocked and 19% of his inside shots blocked.  He's a backup player for a reason.  He's not a starter, celtics fans need to stop being so critical of every player on the team.  We are not going to get 12 all-star players.

Leon Powe's comparative block rate doesn't change the fact that BBD absolutely has to convert a higher percentage of his inside looks.

I'd also be curious to know the percent of shots that he misses because his shot is altered.  I don't think they have a stat on that, but even when his shot isn't blocked, he often misses easy shots trying to avoid the long reach of opposing defenders. 

Still, I wouldn't be surprised if Leon's poor in that area as well.  If you recall back to 2008, Powe and BBD both struggled against long teams like Atlanta and Cleveland and looked better when we played less athletic/lengthy (or in the case of the Lakers, defensively soft) teams. 

Yeah that would be an interesting stat to check out.  I just don't think we should be worried this much about a guy who only takes 5-6 shots a game. 

When one of his primary contributions, offensive boards, is nullified by his inability to score after them its worth talking about.

[Who]

Doc just needs to stop playing Glen Davis alongside slow footed centers.

Then he is an effective role player. Otherwise, he is not, the team defense (help defense from the bigs) declines too severely.

How should Doc manage the big man minutes?

I do think BBD is much more effective alongside KG, but the rotation is tricky.

(1) Garnett + Perkins
(2) Garnett + Davis

(3) Sheed + Perkins

(6) Davis + Perkins
(7) Garnett + Sheed

Those are the five big man combinations that I would like to see used. The first two are the best combinations and should be heavily used when Dwyane Wade is on the floor for Miami. The other three are second + third choice combinations.

In terms of minutes, it depends on Rasheed's aggressiveness in the post. I like his matchup at the power forward position. Both Haslem and Beasley are undersized power forwards who are inadequate post defenders. A long skilled post scorer like Garnett or Rasheed can be very effective against them.

If Wallace isn't taking advantage of that matchup, then I would drop him from the rotation altogether for the rest of this series. Give Perk, Garnett and Davis 30-35 minutes a night.

If, the team needed another big in the rotation (if Sheed is benched), I would use one of these combinations

(4) Garnett + Shelden
(5) Scalabrine + Perk

[snively]

Baby's defensive rebounding last night was impressive.  I'd like to see more of that from him, in addition to his work on the offensive boards.

[gar]

I want a Celtic, any Celtic other than Perk to avg. more than 10 rebounds a game for a series - then and only then will they have a chance of winning anything this year. Sheldon can rebound and he can finish better than BBD. He can block shots better - still not really sure why BBD (or Sheed) are still in there. This is not saying that Sheldon is the man; merely that the other guys need to step up. Rebounding is pathetic.