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Re: Start Sheed Debate
« Reply #30 on: March 12, 2010, 03:07:57 PM »

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Out of curiosity, out of all those calling to start Rasheed over Perk, how many of you were calling to bench Sheed and play Shelden not too long ago?

Rasheed has a couple of okay games, or more accurately doesn,t suck as bad for a couple of games, and suddenly people want to be starting him?

We are still talking about a guy who's rebound percentage is only 10.8, who's rebounds per 40 minutes is slightly lower than 7 a game, a guy who takes 47.8% of his shots from three point territory and makes 29% of them and THIS is the guy you want starting for this team instead of Kendrick Perkins?

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Re: Start Sheed Debate
« Reply #31 on: March 12, 2010, 03:14:40 PM »

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Sheed has played well overall, especially for a guy his age.  What did you expect?  There's just a group of scapegoat hunters here who like to assign blame to the team's second tier players instead of where it belongs: on the guys who make the big bucks and aren't producing. These same haters hounded Tony Allen for years.

So what's the worst thing that could happen if they start Sheed?  They might lose a game?  So what else is new?  Or is Perkins going to take his ball and go home?

Re: Start Sheed Debate
« Reply #32 on: March 12, 2010, 04:21:17 PM »

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Sheed has played well overall, especially for a guy his age.  What did you expect?  There's just a group of scapegoat hunters here who like to assign blame to the team's second tier players instead of where it belongs: on the guys who make the big bucks and aren't producing. These same haters hounded Tony Allen for years.

So what's the worst thing that could happen if they start Sheed?  They might lose a game?  So what else is new?  Or is Perkins going to take his ball and go home?
ouch
don't think anyone here is looking to scapegoat reserves in order to protect the big guys. were not sycophants.
fact is we're a 500 team right now and things need changing.
but our roster isn't changing so shuffling the starting lineup/ rotation is all doc can do.

 we've got 19 games to right the ship. lets try a couple of different looks.

Re: Start Sheed Debate
« Reply #33 on: March 12, 2010, 04:34:20 PM »

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Sheed has played well overall, especially for a guy his age.  What did you expect?  There's just a group of scapegoat hunters here who like to assign blame to the team's second tier players instead of where it belongs: on the guys who make the big bucks and aren't producing. These same haters hounded Tony Allen for years.

So what's the worst thing that could happen if they start Sheed?  They might lose a game?  So what else is new?  Or is Perkins going to take his ball and go home?

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Re: Start Sheed Debate
« Reply #34 on: March 12, 2010, 04:38:53 PM »

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No...let's go there.  Chemistry will what?
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Re: Start Sheed Debate
« Reply #35 on: March 12, 2010, 04:43:44 PM »

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I was gonna say it would get worse, but at this point that doesn't seem all too possible
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Re: Start Sheed Debate
« Reply #36 on: March 12, 2010, 05:08:35 PM »

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Sheed has played well overall, especially for a guy his age.  What did you expect?  There's just a group of scapegoat hunters here who like to assign blame to the team's second tier players instead of where it belongs: on the guys who make the big bucks and aren't producing. These same haters hounded Tony Allen for years.

So what's the worst thing that could happen if they start Sheed?  They might lose a game?  So what else is new?  Or is Perkins going to take his ball and go home?



Wallace has played okay thus far. His effort has been iffy. If he consistently played down low and took only a couple 3's a night, he would be absolutely dominating his role. But, as of now, he is only playing okay. With all that being said, I'm still in favor of starting Rasheed. I think it would be a huge lift for the team. Perkins just kills the starting lineup and isn't a good player, plain and simple. I said this a couple months ago, and 90% of the people on this board said I had no idea what I was talking about. My how things change.
« Last Edit: March 12, 2010, 05:15:43 PM by KungPoweChicken »

Re: Start Sheed Debate
« Reply #37 on: March 12, 2010, 05:10:46 PM »

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I haven't seen much effort from Perkins, either.  Maybe married life is too much for him.

Re: Start Sheed Debate
« Reply #38 on: March 12, 2010, 05:13:11 PM »

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I haven't seen much effort from Perkins, either.  Maybe married life is too much for him.


I think Perkins gives some effort. He just has such a limited skill set that nothing comes of it. Rasheed, on the other hand, has skills but doesn't utilize them.

Re: Start Sheed Debate
« Reply #39 on: March 12, 2010, 06:08:47 PM »

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Blakely just said on Comcast that he thinks KG should come off the bench because Sheed plays better against better competition. Thoughts?
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Re: Start Sheed Debate
« Reply #40 on: March 12, 2010, 06:39:29 PM »

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Who is Blakely and why should anyone care what he thinks?

Re: Start Sheed Debate
« Reply #41 on: March 12, 2010, 08:51:48 PM »

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Who is Blakely and why should anyone care what he thinks?

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Re: Start Sheed Debate
« Reply #42 on: March 12, 2010, 10:20:39 PM »

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Out of curiosity, out of all those calling to start Rasheed over Perk, how many of you were calling to bench Sheed and play Shelden not too long ago?

Rasheed has a couple of okay games, or more accurately doesn,t suck as bad for a couple of games, and suddenly people want to be starting him?

We are still talking about a guy who's rebound percentage is only 10.8, who's rebounds per 40 minutes is slightly lower than 7 a game, a guy who takes 47.8% of his shots from three point territory and makes 29% of them and THIS is the guy you want starting for this team instead of Kendrick Perkins?



Speaking for myself I have never wanted Sheldon replace anyone.

I did want Dco to give starting Sheed a try or at least giving him more minutes. I wanted this after looking at the 11 game sample where Sheed has played more than 30 minutes and he has produced numbers at his career averages.

I totally get the rebounding point but Perk hasnt given us much rebounding either. I also liked the idea of Perk playing with BBD in the 2nd unit. It seems like a more natural frontcourt than Sheed and BBD. It would all depend on how well KG and Sheed would play together and that I am not sure of.

I cant speak for anyone else but that is my line of thought.

I wasnt able to watch the game tonight but I know Doc didnt start Sheed. Looks like it worked out!

Re: Start Sheed Debate
« Reply #43 on: March 12, 2010, 10:25:20 PM »

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Since the end of January, or about 6 weeks, Perk has really suffered on the boards

Really kind of unexplainable

I wonder if he's playing through something, like a shoulder injury or something

He played very well tonight
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Re: Start Sheed Debate
« Reply #44 on: March 12, 2010, 10:33:23 PM »

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Since the end of January, or about 6 weeks, Perk has really suffered on the boards

Really kind of unexplainable

I wonder if he's playing through something, like a shoulder injury or something

He played very well tonight

Could be. That has cropped up like clockwork every year.

Glad to hear he played well tonight.

In a perfect world, Perk would return to his early season form, and Sheed would shoot his career percentages from the floor and from 3 in the minutes he is allotted while contributing active solid defense. I wonder and hope both can happen simultaneously.