How is a 30-5 run even possible?

[ScoobyDoo]

I saw it, a 30-5 run by Orlando, then it added up to a 36-11 run a bit later. How is that even possible? I know it's the NBA but we have a few guys on our side...guys like KG, Pierce, Ray, Rondo ( three of them all stars, and Ray's not bad either, pretty good career...

I mean shouldn't some people be hitting the floor? I can tell you that game wouldn't have gotten a lot uglier alot sooner if I was coaching. Someone on Orlando would have taken it right on the chin. Guaranteed before I stood there and had it stuck to me like that. Think Bird wouldn't gone for that?

Show some heart, for god's sake. If you can't buy a basket at least head straight for the rim. And you know what, give Howard a pump fake and when you lift him, drive you're **** elbow right into his gut while he's coming down and you're on the up, make sure he feels it. Show some balls.

Howard drove Rondo to the floor on one baseline drive and not one of our bigs went over to say hello to him. If I was Rondo on theat play, I'd go introduce myself for sure and I'd make sure he got an elbow across the face the next time he was within reach. I'll take the tech.

Point is, no heart, no toughness no nasty streak.

A bunch of chics out there pretending to be Celtics.
 
You tell your teams no shots allowed unless you're dunking it...I want every shot to the rim. At least you'll get to the foul line 2-3 times our of 6, probably a 50-50 sucess rate.

Clear it out for Rondo or Tony and let them have at it. Better option than what I saw today...

I just cannot fathom a 30-5 run. It doesn't compute. And just standing there like a punching bag is really a disgusting thing to watch.

This team has all the talent they need right now to dominate the magic, the Cavs, the Lakers, etc. and I mean that 100%.

But no level of talent can hide the fact that you have no heart, desire or toughness as a cohesive team.

The worst part, this team should easily win a ring and probably won't because of it.

That's like knowing what you're doing is wrong and just doing it anyway, over and over again.

[Rtpas11]

Easily...

its possible when you're already the good defensive opposition (Orlando) playing against a poor offensive opposition (Boston). The Nets & Wizards Would've done the same it also... but they're so poor defensively that it didn't happen.

I said this before.... the break down of C's Losses:

Rondo = driving force, playmaker, creator, tempo setter etc... he usually performs great in the 1st half of games. @ halftime teams catch on realizing Rondo play is doing all the damage, so they allow Rondo to beat them solely while staying put with the other 4 opposition. Rondo's reluctance to stay aggressive offensively then hurts the Celtics because he won't shoot and won't penetrate being the pass 1st point guard he is.

He tries to force set plays when he doesn't need to resulting in turnovers, poor movement of the ball, poor timing of shot clock, poor shot selection, long rebounds for the opposing team who break and score easily as the c's try to get back on transition defense. Enuff writing.... Rondo is the reason the Celtics lose leads, tempo, and ultimately games. If Rondo is the problem then Doc is the problem because he's not coaching his quarterback correctly. G-Nite!

[PosImpos]

Easily...

its possible when you're already the good defensive opposition (Orlando) playing against a poor offensive opposition (Boston). The Nets & Wizards Would've done the same it also... but they're so poor defensively that it didn't happen.

I said this before.... the break down of C's Losses:

Rondo = driving force, playmaker, creator, tempo setter etc... he usually performs great in the 1st half of games. @ halftime teams catch on realizing Rondo play is doing all the damage, so they allow Rondo to beat them solely while staying put with the other 4 opposition. Rondo's reluctance to stay aggressive offensively then hurts the Celtics because he won't shoot and won't penetrate being the pass 1st point guard he is.

He tries to force set plays when he doesn't need to resulting in turnovers, poor movement of the ball, poor timing of shot clock, poor shot selection, long rebounds for the opposing team who break and score easily as the c's try to get back on transition defense. Enuff writing.... Rondo is the reason the Celtics lose leads, tempo, and ultimately games. If Rondo is the problem then Doc is the problem because he's not coaching his quarterback correctly. G-Nite!

This...makes a lot of sense.

[vinnie]

There are lots of problems with this team -- obviously -- but lack of toughness is a big one. Most games this team seems more interested in chumming around and yukking it up with the opposition. ZERO toughness on this team right now on top of all of the other problems.

[ScoobyDoo]

Well, I agree that Rondo does dictate the tempo and that he is critical in driving this team on a night to night basis through his playmaking; that is pretty much the definition of a point guard's job. But the argument is too simplistic IMHO:

1. Rajon Rondo is a point guard

2. All point guards are supposed to dictate the tempo of the games they play in and successfully quarterback their teams to wins every night.

3. Therefore, based on your argument, all losses by all basketball teams should be the sole responsiblity of the point guard on each respective team; thus all losses by the Celtics are the fault of Rajon Rondo.

Rondo is not unique in his position as the driving force of his team. Teams are generally rudderless without a good point guard. But that is just one aspect of a team.

1. Rondo cannot force his big guys to act like pitbulls on the boards.

2. Rondo cannot not force Ray Allen to stop fumbling the ball around on the perimeter.

3. Rondo cannot force Paul Pierce to take the ball to the rim for once in his life ( this season )

4. Rondo cannot force Rasheed to get his large fat back side down on the block instead of taking hook shots from three land all night.

5. Rondo cannot force KG to be 100% healthy and take control of this team both mentally and physically.

6. Rondo cannot force KG to DEMAND the ball on the post and will his way to the basket to either score of get fouled.

7. Rondo cannot force his teammates to play with hearts the size of Leon Powe's on a nightly basis, that is always a unique personal quality; it's either there or not.

I think Rondo has been in the league for four season now and i'm pretty confident that teams know how game plan for him at this point and that starts with minute one of quarter one every night; he is an all star. Suprised by Brandon Jennings? Yes. By Rondo? No.

Doc does have to coach Rondo better if he is not getting done what he needs to get done. But I think Doc has alot more coaching adjustments to do than just Rondo.

Heress' where I see the problems:

1. This team, collectively as a unit, displays zero heart, toughness and will to win; that is the biggest problem.

2. KG is possible being "too nice". He is the ultimate team guy and support guy. But full health or not at full health, KG needs to take the kid gloves off with these guys. There is only one alpha dog on this team and his initials are KG. If I had to fault one guy on the plyaer side, I'd start at the top with KG. He is the sheriff, and it should be a very unpleasant experience being aroudn him right now. If it's not, the team doesn't care...

Higher up it's Doc, but he needs to better coach more than just Rondo.

[Edgar]

easily




P:S.
Can I have my new signature with this picture without the NMofH letters
and saying the big 3 please.

[QuinielaBox]

Thank You Scooby Doo......

The solution must come from within (TP awarded).

[ScoobyDoo]

Edgar, what does easily mean in you reply? I'm not sure what you mean.

Thanks for the TP Quinelabox.   

[Edgar]

Edgar, what does easily mean in you reply? I'm not sure what you mean.

Thanks for the TP Quinelabox.   

easily...dinosaur legs.

[Kuberski33]

Easy.  Your team isn't trying hard enough.

[Kuberski33]

BTW speaking of not trying, anyone catch one of the announcers - not sure whether it was Van Gundy or Jackson saying Sheed needed to get in shape?