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Re: Rasheed Wallace Fined $30,000
« Reply #30 on: November 30, 2009, 06:07:30 AM »

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We know Sheed has the money to pay the fine.  That's not the point.  The point is to send a message to David Stern.  If I'm willing to pay $50 for a ticket, I should be silling to pay $50 to send that message and buy one less ticket.

There are two things ruining the NBA: over expansion and bad officiating.  I can't do anything about the first, but perhaps, at least symbolically, I can do something about the second.

There needs to be a full investigation by an impartial third party of NBA officials.  They're either biased, crooked or utterly incompetent.

They could be all three!

Re: Rasheed Wallace Fined $30,000
« Reply #31 on: November 30, 2009, 10:27:27 AM »

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u know, i agree that players should avoid these refs.
but it is not that simple. i feel that it is not fare for the players to work hard all game, then the refs makes a bad call affecting the game, and then the players get punished for being upset. they have every right to be upset

Re: Rasheed Wallace Fined $30,000
« Reply #32 on: November 30, 2009, 11:15:07 AM »

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Last night, Sheed got that technical for yelling something to the refs as he was running back to the other side of the court.  Later in the game, Wade got a foul and he went all the way up to the ref, disturbed the refs walking by getting really close to him and yelling/explaining that he got fouled while the ref attempted to give the ball back to the Celtics.  Neither were deserving technicals, but if Sheed got a technical for yelling something across the court to the ref as he was going back ready to play, then Wade should've got a technical for disturbing the ref who was trying to get the ball back in the play.  Wade's action affected the ref and the game more, but only Sheed got a technical.  How is he not targeted?
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Re: Rasheed Wallace Fined $30,000
« Reply #33 on: November 30, 2009, 11:23:10 AM »

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although speaking his mind is not going to help his situation at all, it's refreshing to hear an NBA player tell it like it is.

Re: Rasheed Wallace Fined $30,000
« Reply #34 on: November 30, 2009, 11:40:17 AM »

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Neither Rasheed nor Perks are smart players. Thats all there is to it. They hurt the team with thier complaints.

Boo! I'd give you a negative TP if I could.

Perk and Sheed are emotional, and they do often get carried away arguing calls.  Yes, they should know better.

But when it comes to the game of basketball, Perk and Sheed are both very intelligent.  They both contribute a ton to the team - especially Perk - and that's hardly reduced by the technical fouls they receive.

To a large extent, particularly in Sheed's case, they are both targeted by the refs.  Perk and Sheed get technical fouls for doing much less than the average NBA player, simply because of their reputation. 

Perkins may argue a lot of calls, but I'd say that he has a case to make on a fair amount of them.  He isn't allowed to get away with even 75% of the things that a guy like Dwight Howard does.  I'm sure that frustrates him to no end. 

I also think you're wrong when you say Perk doesn't believe he's ever fouled somebody.  Perks knows when he commits a foul.  Numerous times each game he fouls somebody as they are going to the basket to prevent an easy field goal.  He doesn't dispute those calls.  Many other times, though, he gets called for dubious shooting fouls when he merely contests a shot near the basket.  I can't blame him for getting frustrated by those calls.

I basically agree. Saying Perk and Sheed aren't smart players....come on.
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Re: Rasheed Wallace Fined $30,000
« Reply #35 on: November 30, 2009, 12:22:30 PM »

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This is what Sheed said to earn his fine:

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"They've got to know that he's a [dang] flopper. That's all Turkododo do. Flopping shouldn't get you nowhere. He acts like I shot him.

"That's not basketball, man. That's not defense. That's garbage, what it is. I'm glad I don't have too much of it left."

"This game is watered down, watered down with all that flopping. They're setting rules on us to the point where you're taunting if you dunk on somebody. Paul [Pierce] dunked it and then he didn't say nothing, but it's a tech.

Let the Golden Child [Cleveland's LeBron James] do that. Or one of the NBA Without Border kids do that, it's all fine and dandy."

For so-called criticism of referees, Sheed didn't get his money's worth. Unless it's now league practice to fine players for speaking critically about *other players*, this is pretty weak sauce.
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Re: Rasheed Wallace Fined $30,000
« Reply #36 on: November 30, 2009, 12:51:27 PM »

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Last night, Sheed got that technical for yelling something to the refs as he was running back to the other side of the court.  Later in the game, Wade got a foul and he went all the way up to the ref, disturbed the refs walking by getting really close to him and yelling/explaining that he got fouled while the ref attempted to give the ball back to the Celtics.  Neither were deserving technicals, but if Sheed got a technical for yelling something across the court to the ref as he was going back ready to play, then Wade should've got a technical for disturbing the ref who was trying to get the ball back in the play.  Wade's action affected the ref and the game more, but only Sheed got a technical.  How is he not targeted?

Depends if Sheed used one of the "magic words" when he yelled downcourt.

That and Bennett Salvatore has it out for the Celtics  :P

Re: Rasheed Wallace Fined $30,000
« Reply #37 on: November 30, 2009, 01:45:10 PM »

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I assume most here do not consider Powe a flopper, but he didn't seem to resist being knocked over when there was contact.

For the record, Guava, Powe's ridiculous consistent flopping sickened me.  Along with Glen Davis'..etc. 

Wallace is absolutely right in everything he said.  The game is totally diminished by star preferential treatment, flopping, and inconsistent lol interpretation of the rulebook by officials.

But until revenue declines, Stern is better off doing exactly what he's doing now. 

Re: Rasheed Wallace Fined $30,000
« Reply #38 on: November 30, 2009, 01:48:19 PM »

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I assume most here do not consider Powe a flopper, but he didn't seem to resist being knocked over when there was contact.

For the record, Guava, Powe's ridiculous consistent flopping sickened me.  Along with Glen Davis'..etc. 

Wallace is absolutely right in everything he said.  The game is totally diminished by star preferential treatment, flopping, and inconsistent lol interpretation of the rulebook by officials.

But until revenue declines, Stern is better off doing exactly what he's doing now. 

I don't agree with that. Call me blindsided if you want, but I feel like there is a BIG difference between Varejao and Powe or Big Baby : Varejao basically shows his acting skills by doing a lot of gesturing and drop on the floor, whis is what I call flopping, while Davis and Powe (and Pierce) are good as getting a charge. There is a big difference between being good at staying put, without moving and thus drawing a charge, and falling on the floor like a diva to make sure you get a foul.

Same reasoning applies to all the players in the league. When I see Varejao as a flopper, I think Jared Dudley is good at taking charges.

Re: Rasheed Wallace Fined $30,000
« Reply #39 on: November 30, 2009, 02:02:37 PM »

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I assume most here do not consider Powe a flopper, but he didn't seem to resist being knocked over when there was contact.

For the record, Guava, Powe's ridiculous consistent flopping sickened me.  Along with Glen Davis'..etc. 

Wallace is absolutely right in everything he said.  The game is totally diminished by star preferential treatment, flopping, and inconsistent lol interpretation of the rulebook by officials.

But until revenue declines, Stern is better off doing exactly what he's doing now. 

I don't agree with that. Call me blindsided if you want, but I feel like there is a BIG difference between Varejao and Powe or Big Baby : Varejao basically shows his acting skills by doing a lot of gesturing and drop on the floor, whis is what I call flopping, while Davis and Powe (and Pierce) are good as getting a charge. There is a big difference between being good at staying put, without moving and thus drawing a charge, and falling on the floor like a diva to make sure you get a foul.

Same reasoning applies to all the players in the league. When I see Varejao as a flopper, I think Jared Dudley is good at taking charges.

come on now...I love the guy, but powe is a flopper, plain and simple. It's how he draws his charges. nothing wrong with it in my book, but lets be honest here.

Varejao is more annoying because he's on another team, but leon does the same thing. It's part of emphasizing a charge, and like it or not it's part of the game.

yes leon has good feet, but he's also a master of being hit by a sniper's bullet from the third row at the moment of contact.

 If leon gets healthy and draws charges as well as he used too, i predict the first time he draws a charge on paul, the game thread will erupt with "FLOPPER!!"
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Re: Rasheed Wallace Fined $30,000
« Reply #40 on: November 30, 2009, 03:34:29 PM »

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Sadly, no amount of fundraising or complaining will change anything so long as David Stern is commissioner. You don't have to look any further than Mark Cuban out in Dallas of where all that will get you. Got fined up the wazoo and rewarded with the fine and fair officiating of the 2006 Finals where we all got to witness Dwyane Wade and his free throw parade.
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Re: Rasheed Wallace Fined $30,000
« Reply #41 on: November 30, 2009, 04:17:27 PM »

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Sadly, no amount of fundraising or complaining will change anything so long as David Stern is commissioner. You don't have to look any further than Mark Cuban out in Dallas of where all that will get you. Got fined up the wazoo and rewarded with the fine and fair officiating of the 2006 Finals where we all got to witness Dwyane Wade and his free throw parade.

I'll never stop trying. Maybe this latest allegation (that 13 other officials besides Donaghy were involved with gamblers) will stir up the pot, and I'm hoing that someone has the cojones to publish Donaghy's book.

Re: Rasheed Wallace Fined $30,000
« Reply #42 on: November 30, 2009, 04:52:36 PM »

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Sadly, no amount of fundraising or complaining will change anything so long as David Stern is commissioner. You don't have to look any further than Mark Cuban out in Dallas of where all that will get you. Got fined up the wazoo and rewarded with the fine and fair officiating of the 2006 Finals where we all got to witness Dwyane Wade and his free throw parade.

Only good thing about the 2006 Finals was that at least Toine got his ring(and did a very good job in EARNING IT, too) then.   

(of course, I'm a teensy-weensy biased in that regard....  ;D   )