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Re: Antonio Daniels on the block???
« Reply #15 on: September 09, 2009, 01:51:00 AM »

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Well, if you actually took the time to read the thread I referenced where this trade was discussed:

Read the details of the trade originally, understood your premise, but just think it is flawed (even after correcting for the original buyout error assumption - taking the whole salary off the books) because it hinges on a 70% buyout of the original contract, and an overall loss to the player of 35% of the salary even if he gets a vet min elsewhere.  In your scenario Scal ends up with $2.2M of his $3.4M and while he may want to "play" for a contender (not like he's going to see substantial minutes on many contending teams) and may like to not relocate from Boston, there is little chance he gives up that much cash IMO.  He has the leverage because he holds the guaranteed contract, if teams want to save some  cash they have to make a pretty favorable deal for the player.  This is Scal's last big payday, he's a minimum guy from now on.  No matter what the motivation, he's going to recoup almost all of that $3.4M.

The Hornets definitely could save money on a TA/Scal for Daniels trade (beyond just the difference amount) if Scal does a reasonable buyout, I just think the savings are less than you think.  Obviously, neither of us know what Scal's absolute motivations are, but I think he can probably have both near his full $3.4M and his freedom (or at least a promise to come back to Boston) if he, and his agent, play their cards right.
And as always it's all just hypothetical so who knows. If it were to come to fruition the reality would probably lie somewhere in the middle, like always. Good points sir on the last big pay day being a factor to consider, though, I guess most of us would consider $1 million plus per year as a vet minimum, a pretty big pay day. TP. I could definitely see your scenario happening too.

Re: Antonio Daniels on the block???
« Reply #16 on: September 09, 2009, 06:16:51 PM »

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Re: Antonio Daniels on the block???
« Reply #17 on: September 09, 2009, 06:21:54 PM »

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Another good move for Minnesota. Along with acquiring a future 2nd rounder, they moved even more money off of next year's books (Songaila's player option) for a nice big expiring contract in Daniels.

A good chance they will be cutting Chucky Atkins at some point, since his contract is non-guaranteed.
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Re: Antonio Daniels on the block???
« Reply #18 on: September 09, 2009, 06:54:18 PM »

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You know when this Minnesota deal was hinted at on Hoopshype they made it sound like the Wolves were going to send out an expiring not receive one. The I read the Minnesota Star article they were referencing the story from and got from that that the Wolves were looking to bring in an expiring.

Turns out the Star article had the right of it. Do those clowns at Hoopshype ever get it right?

That said, this is still not enough savings for New orleans to get under the cap. More has to be forthcoming. So maybe we take my original premise of Scal and Tony and money to NO buy out Scal for Songalia and Wright?

Yeah, never mind. I don't see that happening either. Just thinking out loud.

Re: Antonio Daniels on the block???
« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2009, 07:19:18 PM »

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Scal and Giddens combine to almost exactly match Songaila's contract. Sending cash to NO might make it worthwhile for them.

Unfortunately, the numbers don't quite add up for a swap of Scal for Songaila or Tony and Giddens for Songaila (just a few thousand off in each case).
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