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Big Ben back to Pistons
« on: August 07, 2009, 03:29:21 PM »

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1 year, vet minimum

interesting move, seems more PR than anything to me

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4383906
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Re: Big Ben back to Pistons
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2009, 03:38:50 PM »

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in other Pistons free agent news, apparantly the heat are interested in Allen Iverson... I don't think and Wade would work well together
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« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2009, 03:55:16 PM »

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What is the Sheldin deal we're signing him too like?  Interesting to compare.  Would people rather have him or Wallace?

Re: Big Ben back to Pistons
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2009, 04:51:36 PM »

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Smart move by Detroit. Good signing.

It's a pity they signed Wilcox ... Wallace could have made more of a difference for them if he was getting 20 minutes a night. At this point, if he gets those minutes, they're coming at the expense of younger player who has solid NBA talent and may have a future with the club.

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« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2009, 05:08:02 PM »

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What is the Sheldin deal we're signing him too like?  Interesting to compare.  Would people rather have him or Wallace?


Definitely Shelden Williams. It was clear that Big Ben was done even before his broken leg of mid-season last year. Now, post leg-gate, he is a year older and undoubtedly done. Shelden is at least servicable, which is all you need from a 4th or 5th big.
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« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2009, 05:11:15 PM »

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Smart move by Detroit. Good signing.

It's a pity they signed Wilcox ... Wallace could have made more of a difference for them if he was getting 20 minutes a night. At this point, if he gets those minutes, they're coming at the expense of younger player who has solid NBA talent and may have a future with the club.

Why is it a smart move by Detroit if what they're doing is taking minutes away from a "younger player who has solid NBA talent and may have a future with the club"? I fail to see the logic. It looks like a move that crowds the depth chart and prevents a younger, better player from flourishing.
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« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2009, 05:22:44 PM »

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Wonder if we tried to get Wallace over Williams? I'd still take Big Ben, honestly. He averaged 6.5 boards for Cleveland last year (Not sure how much he played after his injury, but he did play in the playoffs with limited minutes)

I think Ben could still be a good player, especially for this team in the same roll Shelden will fill.

Re: Big Ben back to Pistons
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2009, 05:39:21 PM »

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Smart move by Detroit. Good signing.

It's a pity they signed Wilcox ... Wallace could have made more of a difference for them if he was getting 20 minutes a night. At this point, if he gets those minutes, they're coming at the expense of younger player who has solid NBA talent and may have a future with the club.

Why is it a smart move by Detroit if what they're doing is taking minutes away from a "younger player who has solid NBA talent and may have a future with the club"? I fail to see the logic. It looks like a move that crowds the depth chart and prevents a younger, better player from flourishing.
Because they're not going to give him those minutes. As a fifth big in the rotation, playing situational minutes, and as a locker presence ... Big Ben is excellent.

I'm disappointed that Ben won't have a larger role. When these rumours began, they hadn't signed Wilcox, and I thought he could have filled a larger role for the club than the one he's getting now. I think he has too much basketball left in him to be a non-rotation player.

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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2009, 06:17:03 PM »

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Smart move by Detroit. Good signing.

It's a pity they signed Wilcox ... Wallace could have made more of a difference for them if he was getting 20 minutes a night. At this point, if he gets those minutes, they're coming at the expense of younger player who has solid NBA talent and may have a future with the club.

Why is it a smart move by Detroit if what they're doing is taking minutes away from a "younger player who has solid NBA talent and may have a future with the club"? I fail to see the logic. It looks like a move that crowds the depth chart and prevents a younger, better player from flourishing.
Because they're not going to give him those minutes. As a fifth big in the rotation, playing situational minutes, and as a locker presence ... Big Ben is excellent.

I'm disappointed that Ben won't have a larger role. When these rumours began, they hadn't signed Wilcox, and I thought he could have filled a larger role for the club than the one he's getting now. I think he has too much basketball left in him to be a non-rotation player.

That's funny--I don't think he has any basketball left in him at all. He broke his leg last year, he turns 35 on September 10th, He wasn't good before the injury, and in the playoffs he was abysmal, averaging 1.1 PPG 2.7 RPG in 12.6 minutes per game. To me, he is an old, injury prone player who is far past his prime and has lost a ton of his athletic ability (which is what he relied on to defend centers--being only 6'9).

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« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2009, 06:26:54 PM »

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i never believed dumars to be a great gm the way the media made him out to be(rasheed was a gift,darko over carmelo). i actually think he's very BAD. i thought the gordon and villanueva signing were odd too. villanueva much more so.

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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2009, 06:40:05 PM »

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Smells like a "sign the popular vet so he can retire a (fill in team name)" signing.

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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2009, 10:08:08 PM »

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Good point to make that Ben is only 6'9. Maybe Sheldon can pick up his game and become that type of player.

AI in Miami? I think him and DWade would make a sick duo EXCEPT Pat Riley said earlier this week that Chalmers will not be replaced as the starting PG.

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