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Re: Assuming the C's get a quality Big
« Reply #30 on: May 28, 2009, 12:39:22 PM »

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I looked through the wings that are available - most have multiple years on their contracts, and a lot Scal/Tony don't have enough $ to bring back. You're limited to someone making 10 or less. And I don't think ownership will bring in someone with three or more years.

Darko is an oddball case in taht his current team has a young center (Gasol) and is about to get another one in Thabeet. Additionally they are cash strapped. Anyways - I'm not saying Scal and Tony for a wing can't happen, just haven't seen a deal I think passes the sniff test yet.

Re: Assuming the C's get a quality Big
« Reply #31 on: May 28, 2009, 12:45:42 PM »

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I looked through the wings that are available - most have multiple years on their contracts, and a lot Scal/Tony don't have enough $ to bring back. You're limited to someone making 10 or less. And I don't think ownership will bring in someone with three or more years.

Darko is an oddball case in taht his current team has a young center (Gasol) and is about to get another one in Thabeet. Additionally they are cash strapped. Anyways - I'm not saying Scal and Tony for a wing can't happen, just haven't seen a deal I think passes the sniff test yet.


Who says the C's can't take on a wing with 2 years left on their contract...or even more if its a good player?  And they can also put Davis as a sign and trade in the package if they need to, and don't feel they can pay him. 

Now, if they can sign Grant hill for the LLE or vet minimum, great, then they can look at a deal like this.  Although I wouldn't be surprised if the C's would prefer to keep Tony and Scal as extra depth, if they are able to fill the holes up front, and on the wing and at PG without trading them, instead of trading them for a guy who would essentially be depth for 1 position.


Re: Assuming the C's get a quality Big
« Reply #32 on: May 31, 2009, 09:40:11 PM »

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That's my conclusion based on not wanting Posey for long years. I think the guys on the wings we'll be looking at in trades are players other teams want to dump (we're talking about trading BigRed, Tony Allen, and Tony Allen 2 - JR Giddens) which means people their current team would pretty much cut if they could for free.

Also BB S&T potential is greatly limited by the BYC factor. It really limits how useful he is in a trade.

Re: Assuming the C's get a quality Big
« Reply #33 on: May 31, 2009, 10:22:21 PM »

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If Grousbeck can be believed, ownership isn't the ones fussing about an extra year on the contract - Ainge is.

So perhaps we can assume that if Ainge quits trying to outsmart the league like he did last summer and gets back to building a champion, we'll be in pretty good shape next season.

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Re: Assuming the C's get a quality Big
« Reply #34 on: May 31, 2009, 10:37:30 PM »

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If Grousbeck can be believed, ownership isn't the ones fussing about an extra year on the contract - Ainge is.

So perhaps we can assume that if Ainge quits trying to outsmart the league like he did last summer and gets back to building a champion, we'll be in pretty good shape next season.

A long 3, and a competent 5.

He has a championship to his credit. I think you should ease up a bit. It's easy to sit on your butt and criticize.

Re: Assuming the C's get a quality Big
« Reply #35 on: June 01, 2009, 12:24:12 AM »

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Darko is a marginal talent, Kaman is still considered solid. I think the LAC can get more for Kaman then Scal and Tony.

Both Scal and TA could be re-traded by Memphis or bought out, in either case that gives them some flexibility. Then again Chris Wallace is in charge down there so the C's should probably ask for Rudy Gay as a throw in.

any good jab at wallace gets a TP from me  8)

Speaking of jabs at Chris Wallace, maybe we can bamboozle him into a Mikki Moore and Stephon Marbury sign and trades for Darko Milicic.
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Re: Assuming the C's get a quality Big
« Reply #36 on: June 01, 2009, 03:45:54 AM »

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If Grousbeck can be believed, ownership isn't the ones fussing about an extra year on the contract - Ainge is.

So perhaps we can assume that if Ainge quits trying to outsmart the league like he did last summer and gets back to building a champion, we'll be in pretty good shape next season.

A long 3, and a competent 5.

I'm not quite as harsh on Ainge, because most of his moves have worked out, but whoever had the final say on re-signing Posey made a mistake IMO.
As for what the C's needs are, you're exactly right- a long 3 and a competent 5.
 And a backup pg or a 2 that could fill in for ten minutes or so at the point and at least get the ball upcourt and into the offense would be nice.

He has a championship to his credit. I think you should ease up a bit. It's easy to sit on your butt and criticize.

Re: Assuming the C's get a quality Big
« Reply #37 on: June 01, 2009, 07:46:12 AM »

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If Grousbeck can be believed, ownership isn't the ones fussing about an extra year on the contract - Ainge is.

So perhaps we can assume that if Ainge quits trying to outsmart the league like he did last summer and gets back to building a champion, we'll be in pretty good shape next season.

A long 3, and a competent 5.

I'm not quite as harsh on Ainge, because most of his moves have worked out, but whoever had the final say on re-signing Posey made a mistake IMO.
As for what the C's needs are, you're exactly right- a long 3 and a competent 5.
 And a backup pg or a 2 that could fill in for ten minutes or so at the point and at least get the ball upcourt and into the offense would be nice.

He has a championship to his credit. I think you should ease up a bit. It's easy to sit on your butt and criticize.

Ainge has been a good GM, but he's not as infallable as some people on the board persist in believing. His summer last year was a disaster and it handicapped this team from the beginning, and it was indeed easy to see that coming, from July on.

He has very definite holes on this ballclub to fill, including one at the 3 that should have been filled a year ago with quality, not a "prospect" or a suspect, as it turned out.
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Re: Assuming the C's get a quality Big
« Reply #38 on: June 01, 2009, 08:32:43 AM »

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If Grousbeck can be believed, ownership isn't the ones fussing about an extra year on the contract - Ainge is.

So perhaps we can assume that if Ainge quits trying to outsmart the league like he did last summer and gets back to building a champion, we'll be in pretty good shape next season.

A long 3, and a competent 5.

  It was never the case that we couldn't afford Posey, but that Ainge didn't think that he would be worth the money for the four years. Wyc gives Danny a budget, but I doubt he tells Danny who to spend it on.

Re: Assuming the C's get a quality Big
« Reply #39 on: June 01, 2009, 09:25:12 AM »

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I find some of Wyc's resent comments strange, almost as if he is throwing Danny under the bus for not going farther this year. Also, his comments about a definitive guy they have in mind leads me to believe that this might already be a done deal with whisperings already having happened behind the scene. I again, just find it weird for Wyc to come out and twice make his comments about one specific player they have their eyes on and that money won't be an issue.

Re: Assuming the C's get a quality Big
« Reply #40 on: June 02, 2009, 10:55:09 AM »

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I think DA had money for Posey (or Maggette) - he offered the contracts. But he also knows that in year 4, that's money he can't spend. And he has to balance that.