Averaging a triple double for an entire playoff series?

[Edgar]

Wilt Chamberlain 1966-67 vs Boston won series 4-1 21.6 points 32.0 rebounds 10.0 assists


this nmbers are RIDICULOUS

32 rebs...come on who was posting him.... ???cousy

wait i just realize two series in one year

Wilt Chamberlain 1966-67 vs Cincinnati won series 3-1 28.0 points 26.5 rebounds 11.0 assists

Wilt Chamberlain 1966-67 vs Boston won series 4-1 21.6 points 32.0 rebounds 10.0 assists


this nmbers are RIDICULOUS

Wait until you see Perk in Gm 6

lol

[BballTim]

Not to take away from Fat, but I believe those Nuggets teams coached by Doug Moe were ridiculously high scoring teams, that pushed the pace. So there were more shots to get points, rebounds and assists on. Michael Adams, Lever, and Alex English all benefited offensively stats-wise from this. So while Fat Lever was a solid player, if he played for another team his stats would have most likely been reduced a lot (Think Shawn Marion going from the Suns to the Heat and Raptors).

  Good point. Just for fun, compare Lever's per36 numbers for his 20/9/8/2.7 year (18.5 points, 8.7 boards, 7.3 assists and 2.6 steals) and compare it to Rondo's per36 averages scaled by the difference in points scored (118 vs 101) and Rondo's numbers would work out to 15.2 points, 6.7 boards, 10.5 assists and 2.3 steals. Not the same as Lever, but not far off and he's still 5 years younger.

[Fafnir]

Not to take away from Fat, but I believe those Nuggets teams coached by Doug Moe were ridiculously high scoring teams, that pushed the pace. So there were more shots to get points, rebounds and assists on. Michael Adams, Lever, and Alex English all benefited offensively stats-wise from this. So while Fat Lever was a solid player, if he played for another team his stats would have most likely been reduced a lot (Think Shawn Marion going from the Suns to the Heat and Raptors).

  Good point. Just for fun, compare Lever's per36 numbers for his 20/9/8/2.7 year (18.5 points, 8.7 boards, 7.3 assists and 2.6 steals) and compare it to Rondo's per36 averages scaled by the difference in points scored (118 vs 101) and Rondo's numbers would work out to 15.2 points, 6.7 boards, 10.5 assists and 2.3 steals. Not the same as Lever, but not far off and he's still 5 years younger.

You need to compare his numbers with the pace he played at to get a true comparison.

[Roy Hobbs]

Not to take away from Fat, but I believe those Nuggets teams coached by Doug Moe were ridiculously high scoring teams, that pushed the pace. So there were more shots to get points, rebounds and assists on. Michael Adams, Lever, and Alex English all benefited offensively stats-wise from this. So while Fat Lever was a solid player, if he played for another team his stats would have most likely been reduced a lot (Think Shawn Marion going from the Suns to the Heat and Raptors).

  Good point. Just for fun, compare Lever's per36 numbers for his 20/9/8/2.7 year (18.5 points, 8.7 boards, 7.3 assists and 2.6 steals) and compare it to Rondo's per36 averages scaled by the difference in points scored (118 vs 101) and Rondo's numbers would work out to 15.2 points, 6.7 boards, 10.5 assists and 2.3 steals. Not the same as Lever, but not far off and he's still 5 years younger.

You need to compare his numbers with the pace he played at to get a true comparison.

In Lever's best year, the Nuggets had a pace factor of 107.5, meaning they're estimated to have averaged 107.5 possessions per 48 minutes.

This year, the Celtics pace factor was 90.4.  That means, per 48 minutes, the Nuggets got roughly 17.1 more possessions. 

[Fafnir]

Not to take away from Fat, but I believe those Nuggets teams coached by Doug Moe were ridiculously high scoring teams, that pushed the pace. So there were more shots to get points, rebounds and assists on. Michael Adams, Lever, and Alex English all benefited offensively stats-wise from this. So while Fat Lever was a solid player, if he played for another team his stats would have most likely been reduced a lot (Think Shawn Marion going from the Suns to the Heat and Raptors).

  Good point. Just for fun, compare Lever's per36 numbers for his 20/9/8/2.7 year (18.5 points, 8.7 boards, 7.3 assists and 2.6 steals) and compare it to Rondo's per36 averages scaled by the difference in points scored (118 vs 101) and Rondo's numbers would work out to 15.2 points, 6.7 boards, 10.5 assists and 2.3 steals. Not the same as Lever, but not far off and he's still 5 years younger.

You need to compare his numbers with the pace he played at to get a true comparison.

In Lever's best year, the Nuggets had a pace factor of 107.5, meaning they're estimated to have averaged 107.5 possessions per 48 minutes.

This year, the Celtics pace factor was 90.4.  That means, per 48 minutes, the Nuggets got roughly 17.1 more possessions. 

Thanks Roy! TP for you. Now if someone would just do the math for me for the stats as well  . Sadly I'm at work and can't get away with quite that level of slacking.

[guava_wrench]

Wilt Chamberlain 1966-67 vs Boston won series 4-1 21.6 points 32.0 rebounds 10.0 assists


this nmbers are RIDICULOUS

32 rebs...come on who was posting him.... ???cousy

People couldn't shoot back then. Lots of boards with less competition since the talent level was so low back then.

[2short]

Just think of the forgotten player when it comes to best ever talks:
Oscar Robertson averaged a triple double for an ENTIRE SEASON.

[fairweatherfan]

Wilt Chamberlain 1966-67 vs Boston won series 4-1 21.6 points 32.0 rebounds 10.0 assists


this nmbers are RIDICULOUS

32 rebs...come on who was posting him.... ???cousy

People couldn't shoot back then. Lots of boards with less competition since the talent level was so low back then.

Actually it's more of a pace issue than a shooting % issue - it wasn't unusual for teams to average 110+ ppg in the 50s and 60s.  You're right about the physical dominance of the truly great players though.

[Roy Hobbs]

Not to take away from Fat, but I believe those Nuggets teams coached by Doug Moe were ridiculously high scoring teams, that pushed the pace. So there were more shots to get points, rebounds and assists on. Michael Adams, Lever, and Alex English all benefited offensively stats-wise from this. So while Fat Lever was a solid player, if he played for another team his stats would have most likely been reduced a lot (Think Shawn Marion going from the Suns to the Heat and Raptors).

  Good point. Just for fun, compare Lever's per36 numbers for his 20/9/8/2.7 year (18.5 points, 8.7 boards, 7.3 assists and 2.6 steals) and compare it to Rondo's per36 averages scaled by the difference in points scored (118 vs 101) and Rondo's numbers would work out to 15.2 points, 6.7 boards, 10.5 assists and 2.3 steals. Not the same as Lever, but not far off and he's still 5 years younger.

You need to compare his numbers with the pace he played at to get a true comparison.

In Lever's best year, the Nuggets had a pace factor of 107.5, meaning they're estimated to have averaged 107.5 possessions per 48 minutes.

This year, the Celtics pace factor was 90.4.  That means, per 48 minutes, the Nuggets got roughly 17.1 more possessions. 

Thanks Roy! TP for you. Now if someone would just do the math for me for the stats as well  . Sadly I'm at work and can't get away with quite that level of slacking.

If you adjust Rondo's stats across the board for an increased number of possessions (18.9% more), he'd average 14.15 ppg, 6.18 rpg, 9.75 apg, and 2.26 spg, based upon his regular season numbers.  That, of course, assumes that all the numbers would go up equally.

[Edgar]

Wilt Chamberlain 1966-67 vs Boston won series 4-1 21.6 points 32.0 rebounds 10.0 assists


this nmbers are RIDICULOUS

32 rebs...come on who was posting him.... ???cousy

People couldn't shoot back then. Lots of boards with less competition since the talent level was so low back then.

Actually it's more of a pace issue than a shooting % issue - it wasn't unusual for teams to average 110+ ppg in the 50s and 60s.  You're right about the physical dominance of the truly great players though.

yes
I agree in some way wth both of u
followings guava idea
if that was the case why only wilt and oscar did something similar
its just being dominant from both of them

In other notes u can use the phisical dominance on magic too
being a PG
and phisical dominance in speed in fat and rondos case

[BballTim]

Not to take away from Fat, but I believe those Nuggets teams coached by Doug Moe were ridiculously high scoring teams, that pushed the pace. So there were more shots to get points, rebounds and assists on. Michael Adams, Lever, and Alex English all benefited offensively stats-wise from this. So while Fat Lever was a solid player, if he played for another team his stats would have most likely been reduced a lot (Think Shawn Marion going from the Suns to the Heat and Raptors).

  Good point. Just for fun, compare Lever's per36 numbers for his 20/9/8/2.7 year (18.5 points, 8.7 boards, 7.3 assists and 2.6 steals) and compare it to Rondo's per36 averages scaled by the difference in points scored (118 vs 101) and Rondo's numbers would work out to 15.2 points, 6.7 boards, 10.5 assists and 2.3 steals. Not the same as Lever, but not far off and he's still 5 years younger.

You need to compare his numbers with the pace he played at to get a true comparison.

In Lever's best year, the Nuggets had a pace factor of 107.5, meaning they're estimated to have averaged 107.5 possessions per 48 minutes.

This year, the Celtics pace factor was 90.4.  That means, per 48 minutes, the Nuggets got roughly 17.1 more possessions. 

Thanks Roy! TP for you. Now if someone would just do the math for me for the stats as well  . Sadly I'm at work and can't get away with quite that level of slacking.

If you adjust Rondo's stats across the board for an increased number of possessions (18.9% more), he'd average 14.15 ppg, 6.18 rpg, 9.75 apg, and 2.26 spg, based upon his regular season numbers.  That, of course, assumes that all the numbers would go up equally.

  I was comparing per36 numbers for the two. The difference between comparing raw scoring totals and difference in pace is about 1-2%, so Rondo's numbers would go up by a tenth or so. But clearly Rondo's capable of play comparable to Lever's.