Player comparison, Celtics bench

[winsomme]

i like Scal as much as the next pro-Scal guy....but he doesn't play long enough or frequently enough to make a "per 36" argument for him...

the margin of error for that stat goes way up for someone who is playing the amount of time Scal is.

[billysan]

Ok I know I'm going to take some heat for this but I cant help it.

I really would like to see Doc play some other people. Let them get minutes since we cant seem to do much with the current rotation. I know we dont have anyone good enough to replace a starter, but we certainly have people who could come off the bench earlier.

I think we should have Scalabrine as the first man off the bench for a few games followed by Pruitt and POB. Let the rookies play a little too if need be. I say let BBD, House, Powe and TA sit for a couple of games.

We are getting next to no offense from that unit so what can it hurt? I mean what if we lose another game?

[Roy Hobbs]

Player A:  3-for-5, 7 points, 1 turnover, +15

Player B: 1-for-12, 6 points, 3 turnovers, +1

And yet...  Scal is the one who gets a thread mocking his play.

[Casperian]

Confidence is a crucial part in making shots. BBD gets called out since his first shot-attempt. I think it´s not fair to judge him on his eFG%, currently, since we only have a small sample size. Who knows, maybe he gets more comfortable in his role and more confidence in his shot, so that it becomes more reliable at the end of the season.

[Roy Hobbs]

Confidence is a crucial part in making shots. BBD gets called out since his first shot-attempt. I think it´s not fair to judge him on his eFG%, currently, since we only have a small sample size. Who knows, maybe he gets more comfortable in his role and more confidence in his shot, so that it becomes more reliable at the end of the season.

It's not like he's being judged after 3 games, though.  He has 142 shot attempts on the season, and is shooting 34.5%.  At what point do you decide that it isn't just a slump, but instead that the reality is that BBD just isn't a very good shooter, for whatever reason?

[Marco Vincent]

I couldn't agree more.  If you watch Scal without the ball he is doing all the "dirty work" to prevent opposing players from doing there jobs.  Sort of like a "controlled chaos", like the Arcadians in the movie 300.  Also,  I don't understand why BBD is being coached into jump shooting.  Didn't Powe get the majority of his points in college by shooting 15 footers?  He should be throwing them up... not the big man who can box out the paint. 

Watching Davis I was coming to the conclusion he was almost as bad as Scal.

Although the numbers disagree, I still think Scal is a worse player.

In my opinion, Scal would look much worse if he got the consistent minutes Davis does.

I don't know about this. Most likely, Scal's numbers have actually been deflated by his garbage time minutes. His play this season has been noticeably worse in garbage time compared to when the game is still competitive.


The major thing about Scal that irks fans is his poor rebounding numbers. His lack of offensive ability is acceptable because he doesn't mess anything up, and he's for the most part considered a positive force on defense. Therefore, if he's playing the 3, fans don't have much to complain about, because the rebounds aren't as important. And there's definitely room in the rotation for 10 minutes at the backup 3.

What most miss when looking at his lack of rebounds as a PF is that he does a really good job of keeping the man he is defending from grabbing the rebounds as well.


I like Scali as a role player.   10 minutes a game of smart team defense.  Good against teams that play a quicker PF.

[housecall]

Confidence is a crucial part in making shots. BBD gets called out since his first shot-attempt. I think it´s not fair to judge him on his eFG%, currently, since we only have a small sample size. Who knows, maybe he gets more comfortable in his role and more confidence in his shot, so that it becomes more reliable at the end of the season.

It's not like he's being judged after 3 games, though.  He has 142 shot attempts on the season, and is shooting 34.5%.  At one point do you decide that it isn't just a slump, but instead that the reality is that BBD just isn't a very good shooter, for whatever reason?

D-League candidate

[nickagneta]

Scal scorn is really overblown here and for the most case unwarranted. If Danny had signed the guy to a 5 year, $8 million contract years ago, I don't think there would be nearly the outcry against his play that there is. I think most are more upset that he makes the cash he does and doesn't earn that paycheck.

Scal was magnificent for those 9 games KG missed last year and he is a good defender of perimeter big guys. I also thinks he brings good energy off the bench that some lack. Today he was great and this was the second game in a month where his contributions might have meant the difference in the game.

Baby I think gets way too much hate as well. His defense is good and like Wide Load said, he clears space and often might not get the rebound but ensures that his team mate does. I think that's a part of his game that people overlook. Besides if Perk is hurt who do you want defending Yao, Ilgauskas, Howard, Bynum and the like?

POB? Oh please. Rondo could move O'Bryant off the box I'd hate to see what Yao or Bynum would do to him.

[Marco Vincent]

Confidence is a crucial part in making shots. BBD gets called out since his first shot-attempt. I think it´s not fair to judge him on his eFG%, currently, since we only have a small sample size. Who knows, maybe he gets more comfortable in his role and more confidence in his shot, so that it becomes more reliable at the end of the season.

This is exactly why I want to banish all of the "fans" who chant Scals' name.  You can see it affects his shots and play.  Noone is heckling BBD.  He gets riden on by KG but at least his home crowd isn't cutting his heart out everytime he steps on the court.

[Casperian]

Confidence is a crucial part in making shots. BBD gets called out since his first shot-attempt. I think it´s not fair to judge him on his eFG%, currently, since we only have a small sample size. Who knows, maybe he gets more comfortable in his role and more confidence in his shot, so that it becomes more reliable at the end of the season.

It's not like he's being judged after 3 games, though.  He has 142 shot attempts on the season, and is shooting 34.5%.  At what point do you decide that it isn't just a slump, but instead that the reality is that BBD just isn't a very good shooter, for whatever reason?

I guess we have to trust Doc and the coaches on this one. It´s obvious that they encourage him to take that jump shot, so they probably see something we don´t. He should make more of them, but the potential is obviously there. We shouldn´t call a second-year player out just because he does what the coach wants him to do, imo.

[crownsy]

Player A:  3-for-5, 7 points, 1 turnover, +15

Player B: 1-for-12, 6 points, 3 turnovers, +1

And yet...  Scal is the one who gets a thread mocking his play.

to be fair to that threads OP, even though i find it comical as well, that thread was started early in the game (i think like 4 minutes in) after scal had air mailed a three and gotten a dumb foul, as well as colliding with pierce.

The funny thing is that the thread carried on, as scal played very well the rest of the game.

[Vermont Green]

I am not sure I understand the point the OP was trying to make.  Is it that we shouldn't bash Scal or that we should bash BBD.  Or is there a subtle dig at Doc in there that he should play Scal more and BBD less?  Neither is a great player and they are only put on the court out of necessity.  BBD gets more time becasue he matches up better against opposing centers.  There is a greater need for what BBD does a little better than Scal.  Scal has been playing better lately and we are seeing more of him.  We are seeing more of Pruitt too and a I hope that continues even after Tony gets back.  Tony and Pruitt might make a good combo, better than House-Tony or House-Pruitt.