The evolution of Tony Allen: 4 years later, he still has "potential"

[timpiker]

I don't need stats or more film - based on his play this year Tony Allen just plain sucks.  

You know there's something wrong when you are talking POTENTIAL for a player that's been in the league 4 years.  

I usually do not question Danny much but to pay Tony Allen more than the minumum is just plain wrong.

[kozlodoev]

I don't need stats or more film - based on his play this year Tony Allen just plain sucks.  

You know there's something wrong when you are talking POTENTIAL for a player that's been in the league 4 years.  

I usually do not question Danny much but to pay Tony Allen more than the minumum is just plain wrong.

Based on the fact that half of those 4 years were spent coming back from 2 major knee injuries, I'd hazard the guess that the news of Tony Allen's death has been greatly exaggerated.

Plus, this thread is what fabricated the talk about Tony Allen's potential. He has none. He is what he is, and when he's healthy and his head is in the right place, he will be a great player for us. But there is no potential to speak of there -- he likely won't show you anything that you haven't already seen from him.

[timepiece33]

The PER numbers from 82games are a little higher than those on the ESPN website for all players. It has Tony with a higher PER than 10.7, and it's higher than his opponent's PER, so my statement was true. Food for thought,

 http://www.82games.com/ROLRTG3.HTM

  sort on opponent's production (which is akin to opponent's PER) and you'll see Tony at the top of the list for the entire league.

So Hollinger can't figure out the statistic he developed?

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&id=2136379

He has him as the 60th ranked SG in the league with regards to PER.   

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/statistics?sort=per&qual=false&pos=sg&seasonType=2&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba%2fhollinger%2fstatistics%3fsort%3dper%26qual%3dfalse%26pos%3dsg%26seasonType%3d2

How accurate is 82games?  Is it an adjusted number?   Just curious. 

[Tony Allen 08]

Tony Allen will become an All Star this season.

[Roy Hobbs]

Tony Allen will become an All Star this season.

Only if he's playing in the D-League. 

Welcome to the blog, by the way.

[Tony Allen 08]

Yea, thanks. Tony Allen will blow because he has changed even though he has failed in the past.