Is there anybody worth trading Springer/Pritchard + #1 for?

[tenn_smoothie]

Seems ridiculous to me to penalize a franchise for doing an A++ job at managing their roster through very smart draft choices, player development, selective trades and occasional free agent acquisitions - which is exactly what this CBA is doing. The idiotic owners had to negotiate an agreement that protects them from their own greed and egos. But they have given away way too much control and discouraged smart roster construction. The league is penalizing success. Some limits are a good idea to prevent the wealthiest of owners/teams from spending the lesser franchises out of any chance at competing, but the current agreement is excessive.

Can we, under this CBA, keep our current players with new contracts or extensions and sign all of our draft picks and at least maintain our championship roster or are their rules in place that prevent even that minimum amount of continuity ? I realize the tax penalties at certain salary totals become very expensive, which again discourages building and maintaining a talented and well constructed roster, but are there rules beyond those tax increases ?

As to the OP's question, I want to keep Pritchard. He is a good teammate and a consistent contributor if given consistent minutes. He doesn't play as well if he is pulled because of one missed shot attempt. Joe's refusal to play the bench in the finals had the starters exhausted during the 4th quarter of game 5, but fortunately, we had an opponent who was just as tired as we were.

[Who]

Someone may come available.

If White doesn't sign his extension, I could see the team moving him. Maybe for a big guy like Jarett Allen.

So that team would be

G: Jrue, Pritchard
F: Jaylen
F: Tatum, Hauser
F: Porzingis
C: J Allen, Horford

That would be a fun team. A good fallback if D White chose to leave.

[Kernewek]

Can we, under this CBA, keep our current players with new contracts or extensions and sign all of our draft picks and at least maintain our championship roster or are their rules in place that prevent even that minimum amount of continuity ? I realize the tax penalties at certain salary totals become very expensive, which again discourages building and maintaining a talented and well constructed roster, but are there rules beyond those tax increases ?

We will have all of our starting 5 under contract once White signs his extension, which is nearly a guarantee according to literally all of the reporting. The issue isn't so much signing our own draft picks,  it's about keeping them once their rookie deals are up. Other teams will be able to offer more money - so the problem isn't keeping Jaylen, Jayson, White & co, it's about keeping the 'next' generation of players.

Additionally, once you're above the second apron like the C's are, teams have less flexibility - you can't sign players to the MLE, you can't take more salary back in trades, you can't sign players who have been bought out, etc.

[boscel33]

I was reading that White's looking for 31.75M per year.  So the question is, is White the same value as Jrue?  I'm not sure about that. 

Tatum is going north of where JB is. 

We need to keep Hauser, I know it's a club option, but got to take care of him, probably a similar contract as Pritchard.

I think we have to get Tillman back for big depth, probably in the 2-4M range.

Keeping Queta on a club option and see how he develops this year.

I don't know how they keep this team's core together. 

[BitterJim]

I was reading that White's looking for 31.75M per year.  So the question is, is White the same value as Jrue?  I'm not sure about that. 

Tatum is going north of where JB is. 

We need to keep Hauser, I know it's a club option, but got to take care of him, probably a similar contract as Pritchard.

I think we have to get Tillman back for big depth, probably in the 2-4M range.

Keeping Queta on a club option and see how he develops this year.

I don't know how they keep this team's core together.

They keep the team together by Wyc ponying up and paying for a contender like he promised he would.

And I have lots of confidence that he will, if he was planning on cutting salary then not extending Jrue would have been the obvious first move. But we did, and I see that as a sign that he'll keep paying for this core. He wants Banner 19 just as much as us

[BitterJim]

Seems ridiculous to me to penalize a franchise for doing an A++ job at managing their roster through very smart draft choices, player development, selective trades and occasional free agent acquisitions - which is exactly what this CBA is doing. The idiotic owners had to negotiate an agreement that protects them from their own greed and egos. But they have given away way too much control and discouraged smart roster construction. The league is penalizing success. Some limits are a good idea to prevent the wealthiest of owners/teams from spending the lesser franchises out of any chance at competing, but the current agreement is excessive.

Can we, under this CBA, keep our current players with new contracts or extensions and sign all of our draft picks and at least maintain our championship roster or are their rules in place that prevent even that minimum amount of continuity ? I realize the tax penalties at certain salary totals become very expensive, which again discourages building and maintaining a talented and well constructed roster, but are there rules beyond those tax increases ?

As to the OP's question, I want to keep Pritchard. He is a good teammate and a consistent contributor if given consistent minutes. He doesn't play as well if he is pulled because of one missed shot attempt. Joe's refusal to play the bench in the finals had the starters exhausted during the 4th quarter of game 5, but fortunately, we had an opponent who was just as tired as we were.

The CBA does nothing to stop you from keeping your own players, other than increasing/repeater tax penalties. The NBA soft cap with Bird rights and max contracts (which combined mean no other team can pay more for your FAs than you can) is probably the best of all the major sports in terms of keeping your existing players.

The change in the CBA is more in stopping great teams (well, expensive teams) from getting better through trades and FA in order to increase parity and make things more competitive. It won't stop us from running everyone back, only Wyc or Brad could stop that. It will just make it harder for us to retool as players age/retire/leave in FA, but that shouldn't be a problem for at least a couple of years. And other top teams will have just as much difficulty adding talent, soin the short term it probably helps us more than it hurts us.

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Someone may come available.

If White doesn't sign his extension, I could see the team moving him. Maybe for a big guy like Jarett Allen.

So that team would be

G: Jrue, Pritchard
F: Jaylen
F: Tatum, Hauser
F: Porzingis
C: J Allen, Horford

That would be a fun team. A good fallback if D White chose to leave.

My understanding of the new rules are that we could not do that trade. We can't take in more salary than we are trading out as a 2nd apron team, and we can't combine player salaries in a trade.

[BitterJim]

Someone may come available.

If White doesn't sign his extension, I could see the team moving him. Maybe for a big guy like Jarett Allen.

So that team would be

G: Jrue, Pritchard
F: Jaylen
F: Tatum, Hauser
F: Porzingis
C: J Allen, Horford

That would be a fun team. A good fallback if D White chose to leave.

My understanding of the new rules are that we could not do that trade. We can't take in more salary than we are trading out as a 2nd apron team, and we can't combine player salaries in a trade.

According to Sportrac White's cap hit is just over Jarrett Allen's $20 million salary/cap hit, while his salary is below it (I assume due to incentives?). I'm not sure if the salary or cap hit matter for matching in trades but I think it's probably the cap hit

[DefenseWinsChamps]

Someone may come available.

If White doesn't sign his extension, I could see the team moving him. Maybe for a big guy like Jarett Allen.

So that team would be

G: Jrue, Pritchard
F: Jaylen
F: Tatum, Hauser
F: Porzingis
C: J Allen, Horford

That would be a fun team. A good fallback if D White chose to leave.

My understanding of the new rules are that we could not do that trade. We can't take in more salary than we are trading out as a 2nd apron team, and we can't combine player salaries in a trade.

According to Sportrac White's cap hit is just over Jarrett Allen's $20 million salary/cap hit, while his salary is below it (I assume due to incentives?). I'm not sure if the salary or cap hit matter for matching in trades but I think it's probably the cap hit

I'm not sure either. I've got White's at just over 19.5m and Allen's at just over 20m.

[Kuberski33]

I was reading that White's looking for 31.75M per year.  So the question is, is White the same value as Jrue?  I'm not sure about that. 

Tatum is going north of where JB is. 

We need to keep Hauser, I know it's a club option, but got to take care of him, probably a similar contract as Pritchard.

I think we have to get Tillman back for big depth, probably in the 2-4M range.

Keeping Queta on a club option and see how he develops this year.

I don't know how they keep this team's core together.

They keep the team together by Wyc ponying up and paying for a contender like he promised he would.

And I have lots of confidence that he will, if he was planning on cutting salary then not extending Jrue would have been the obvious first move. But we did, and I see that as a sign that he'll keep paying for this core. He wants Banner 19 just as much as us

I can't see Hauser staying here beyond next season. Yes, you overextend to keep your star players. But Hauser's skill set can either be developed or acquired. Granted if the latter you're talking minimum salary but you can probably find a ring chaser.  I have high hopes that Walsh will be that guy and we control him for 3 more seasons.

[No Nickname]

I would love to get someone like Mason Plumlee on a vet minimum.

Actually, Kevin Love would be a great addition if he can't come to terms with the Heat.

Someone else to try out in the Summer League might be Jay Huff.  He's basically like Kornet except an excellent three-point shooter. 

He blocks shots and is an average defender (trained under Tony Bennett at UVa for five years), but he can spread the floor in a way Kornet never will due to his outside shooting.