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Re: Coach Jaylen
« Reply #15 on: March 03, 2023, 04:18:17 PM »

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I mean, just look at Tatum’s numbers last night: 41 points on only 6 3pfg attempts and over 10 fts.

When he and the rest of the team mixes up their game, that’s when they’re deadly. Agree with Jaylen. It’s fine to shoot a lot of threes when we have the right personnel now, but it has to be mixed in with other looks, too, in order to create the necessary spacing and defense shifting.
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Re: Coach Jaylen
« Reply #16 on: March 03, 2023, 07:54:22 PM »

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The roster was constructed to shoot a lot of 3’s. This is how Brad believes the game should be played. That’s how the team played when he was the coach, then Ime and now Joe. They are not going to go away from it.

What happens when the team isn't shooting well, though?  There need to be other ways to generate offense, which is what Jaylen was talking about.  The stats cited by CLNS are instructive:  we're amazing if we hit 36%, and are very mediocre if we don't.  Similarly, it was mentioned the other day that we're the 16th best offense since starting 21-5. 

Ime's teams relied on the 3PT, but their calling card was elite defense.  Brad's teams good, but never reached the Finals, and ended up playing a season of roughly .500 basketball before he quit.  Joe needs to diversify the offense.  He can't just rely upon the players to figure it out on their own, or worse, go with the "no adjustments" approach he publicly stated previously.

What has driven me to drink this season is that, for the first 20-some games, Mazzulla worked wonders implementing off-ball movement and screening into the offense, creating diversity in our attack - a welcome change from Ime's stagnant dribble-centric offense that ground to a halt in the finals last year. Mazzulla talked about spending the off-season with other assistants studying offenses from around the league and using the more successful strategies to put some variety into the C's attack.

It was working beautifully, for the offense anyway. What happened ? We move the ball pretty well around the perimeter, but I rarely see the inside-outside player/ball movement that we started the season with. It has reverted back to the Tatum/Brown bag-o'-tricks isolations or whipping the ball around the 3-point line among stationary players or the dreaded forced dribble into multiple defenders that usually results in a turnover. Note that there is a difference between these forced drives and taking the ball to the basket with more open dribbling lanes.

How refreshing to hear that both Tatum and Brown, watching from a different perspective, were able to see the obvious problem the team has with shooting too many 3's and continuing to shoot them on a cold shooting night instead of changing up their offensive approach. It's good that the players are seeing this because the coach is either unable or unwilling to address the issue.

In the spirit of full disclosure, I drink a lot whether the offense is playing well or not.
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Re: Coach Jaylen
« Reply #17 on: March 03, 2023, 10:13:26 PM »

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The roster was constructed to shoot a lot of 3’s. This is how Brad believes the game should be played. That’s how the team played when he was the coach, then Ime and now Joe. They are not going to go away from it.

What happens when the team isn't shooting well, though?  There need to be other ways to generate offense, which is what Jaylen was talking about.  The stats cited by CLNS are instructive:  we're amazing if we hit 36%, and are very mediocre if we don't.  Similarly, it was mentioned the other day that we're the 16th best offense since starting 21-5. 

Ime's teams relied on the 3PT, but their calling card was elite defense.  Brad's teams good, but never reached the Finals, and ended up playing a season of roughly .500 basketball before he quit.  Joe needs to diversify the offense.  He can't just rely upon the players to figure it out on their own, or worse, go with the "no adjustments" approach he publicly stated previously.

What has driven me to drink this season is that, for the first 20-some games, Mazzulla worked wonders implementing off-ball movement and screening into the offense, creating diversity in our attack - a welcome change from Ime's stagnant dribble-centric offense that ground to a halt in the finals last year. Mazzulla talked about spending the off-season with other assistants studying offenses from around the league and using the more successful strategies to put some variety into the C's attack.

It was working beautifully, for the offense anyway. What happened ? We move the ball pretty well around the perimeter, but I rarely see the inside-outside player/ball movement that we started the season with. It has reverted back to the Tatum/Brown bag-o'-tricks isolations or whipping the ball around the 3-point line among stationary players or the dreaded forced dribble into multiple defenders that usually results in a turnover. Note that there is a difference between these forced drives and taking the ball to the basket with more open dribbling lanes.

How refreshing to hear that both Tatum and Brown, watching from a different perspective, were able to see the obvious problem the team has with shooting too many 3's and continuing to shoot them on a cold shooting night instead of changing up their offensive approach. It's good that the players are seeing this because the coach is either unable or unwilling to address the issue.

In the spirit of full disclosure, I drink a lot whether the offense is playing well or not.

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Re: Coach Jaylen
« Reply #18 on: March 04, 2023, 10:01:31 AM »

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The roster was constructed to shoot a lot of 3’s. This is how Brad believes the game should be played. That’s how the team played when he was the coach, then Ime and now Joe. They are not going to go away from it.

What happens when the team isn't shooting well, though?  There need to be other ways to generate offense, which is what Jaylen was talking about.  The stats cited by CLNS are instructive:  we're amazing if we hit 36%, and are very mediocre if we don't.  Similarly, it was mentioned the other day that we're the 16th best offense since starting 21-5. 

Ime's teams relied on the 3PT, but their calling card was elite defense.  Brad's teams good, but never reached the Finals, and ended up playing a season of roughly .500 basketball before he quit.  Joe needs to diversify the offense.  He can't just rely upon the players to figure it out on their own, or worse, go with the "no adjustments" approach he publicly stated previously.

What has driven me to drink this season is that, for the first 20-some games, Mazzulla worked wonders implementing off-ball movement and screening into the offense, creating diversity in our attack - a welcome change from Ime's stagnant dribble-centric offense that ground to a halt in the finals last year. Mazzulla talked about spending the off-season with other assistants studying offenses from around the league and using the more successful strategies to put some variety into the C's attack.

It was working beautifully, for the offense anyway. What happened ? We move the ball pretty well around the perimeter, but I rarely see the inside-outside player/ball movement that we started the season with. It has reverted back to the Tatum/Brown bag-o'-tricks isolations or whipping the ball around the 3-point line among stationary players or the dreaded forced dribble into multiple defenders that usually results in a turnover. Note that there is a difference between these forced drives and taking the ball to the basket with more open dribbling lanes.

How refreshing to hear that both Tatum and Brown, watching from a different perspective, were able to see the obvious problem the team has with shooting too many 3's and continuing to shoot them on a cold shooting night instead of changing up their offensive approach. It's good that the players are seeing this because the coach is either unable or unwilling to address the issue.

In the spirit of full disclosure, I drink a lot whether the offense is playing well or not.

I wonder how much it has to do with shifting back to the two big man lineups. It was a boon to the offense to have that extra ball-handler and passer out there to facilitate ball movement. Without that extra guard, we see more iso plays from Jaylen & Tatum.