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Re: Celtics Owner Flat Out Denies
« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2022, 05:37:28 PM »

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My personal opinion, unsupported by anything other than my own gut feel, is that we did speak about a potential trade, but only in very general terms, like:

"Hey Sean it's Brad. I hear that KD's looking for a trade, what are you guys looking for?"

"Well we're looking at at least one All Star and maybe a couple rotation players and some picks, given KD is an All-Universe player."

"So hypothetically speaking someone like Jaylen and maybe someone like Derrick? And maybe a couple picks?"

"A Jaylen caliber player would fit the bill, but White wouldn't be enough, he's more of a sub. We'd be looking at someone like Marcus. And picks. That's something to build on I would imagine."

"Gotcha. Well Marcus is kind of off limits, and we value Jaylen very highly. We were just kicking the tires to see what type of deal you were looking for in any case. That's my job after all. Good luck with it all."

That's what I feel went down hypothetically. And I have zero problem with that. Brad's job is to do due diligence and be informed on the market.
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Re: Celtics Owner Flat Out Denies
« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2022, 06:00:07 PM »

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Isn't the legal term plausible deniability?

The Celtics owners are not going start confirming and denying every rumor they get asked about.  They weren't going to come right out and deny this one.  But they came pretty close to it.  Basically implied that he saw it on Twitter but didn't even bother to call Stevens.

Now that doesn't mean that Stevens didn't talk to BKN but it probably means that whatever discussion may have taken place was not nearly serious enough so that the owner's were brought into the discussion.

I am not surprised by any of this.  The most likely scenario was that the Celtics did due diligence (that is a legal term too, right?) and part of that was putting some broad outlines out there, but I did not believe and still don't believe that either party was serious about a trade.  I don't even understand what the debate is.  Are people upset or critical that the Celtics may have been willing to consider Brown in a trade for Durant or that they were never actually serious about trading for Durant?

It seems to go both ways.  Celtics don't want to go all in, weren't willing to go get Durant, Durant would mean a title.  Or, Celtics have messed up Brown by even discussing him with the Nets and now he is mad and going to walk.

This is a good post. Good to see Shams and Woj with a bit of egg on their faces, though.
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Re: Celtics Owner Flat Out Denies
« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2022, 06:22:06 PM »

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Isn't the legal term plausible deniability?

The Celtics owners are not going start confirming and denying every rumor they get asked about.  They weren't going to come right out and deny this one.  But they came pretty close to it.  Basically implied that he saw it on Twitter but didn't even bother to call Stevens.

Now that doesn't mean that Stevens didn't talk to BKN but it probably means that whatever discussion may have taken place was not nearly serious enough so that the owner's were brought into the discussion.

I am not surprised by any of this.  The most likely scenario was that the Celtics did due diligence (that is a legal term too, right?) and part of that was putting some broad outlines out there, but I did not believe and still don't believe that either party was serious about a trade.  I don't even understand what the debate is.  Are people upset or critical that the Celtics may have been willing to consider Brown in a trade for Durant or that they were never actually serious about trading for Durant?

It seems to go both ways.  Celtics don't want to go all in, weren't willing to go get Durant, Durant would mean a title.  Or, Celtics have messed up Brown by even discussing him with the Nets and now he is mad and going to walk.

This is a good post. Good to see Shams and Woj with a bit of egg on their faces, though.

Why do they have egg on their faces?


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Re: Celtics Owner Flat Out Denies
« Reply #18 on: August 30, 2022, 08:42:06 PM »

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Isn't the legal term plausible deniability?

The Celtics owners are not going start confirming and denying every rumor they get asked about.  They weren't going to come right out and deny this one.  But they came pretty close to it.  Basically implied that he saw it on Twitter but didn't even bother to call Stevens.

Now that doesn't mean that Stevens didn't talk to BKN but it probably means that whatever discussion may have taken place was not nearly serious enough so that the owner's were brought into the discussion.

I am not surprised by any of this.  The most likely scenario was that the Celtics did due diligence (that is a legal term too, right?) and part of that was putting some broad outlines out there, but I did not believe and still don't believe that either party was serious about a trade.  I don't even understand what the debate is.  Are people upset or critical that the Celtics may have been willing to consider Brown in a trade for Durant or that they were never actually serious about trading for Durant?

It seems to go both ways.  Celtics don't want to go all in, weren't willing to go get Durant, Durant would mean a title.  Or, Celtics have messed up Brown by even discussing him with the Nets and now he is mad and going to walk.

This is a good post. Good to see Shams and Woj with a bit of egg on their faces, though.

Why do they have egg on their faces?
especially based on that post.

It seems pretty clear that Brown was offered but it never got close enough to bring the owner in, so the owner did not in fact have any discussion about Durant.  Just another statement to try to save some face with Brown.
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