Kessler Edwards

[Who]

If this guy is so good, why didn't BKN use him in the playoffs against us?

They were desperate for quality wing players with the losses due to injury of Ben Simmons and Joe Harris. They were fielding tiny backcourts that were getting abused by our bigger perimeter players.

Maybe the answer is straight forward = this guy sucks. They didn't play him because he wasn't good enough to help them. If he wasn't good enough to help them as desperate as they were last season, why in the world would he be good enough to help us next season?

He's a raw 21-year-old player. He'd be a 13th or 14th guy that could play in a pinch. Played 20 minutes a game last year in limited games for the Nets. 35% from 3. 5.9 pts and 3.6 rbs

We need guys we can trust in a playoff game if needed.

Not raw developmental prospects. We have Hauser for that.

We need a wing that is happy as a 3rd stringer who won't wet the bed if called upon in a playoff series.

Who do you want?

I want a vet. Someone with some experience in the league.

Not a youngster trying to find out if belongs or not.

And not an old fogie who can't move his legs anymore like Aldridge, Ibaka, Cousins, Carmelo.

Preferably someone in their mid to late 20s who has a decent number of minutes under their belt.

How many players are out there that would sign for the minimum, would accept the 12th / 13th man role, and can play meaningful minutes in the playoffs?

It’s an exceedingly short list.

Yep

* Wes Matthews would be worth a call. He did a nice job against us in the playoffs for MIL and his job was just taken by Joe Ingles. He might be willing to take such a role.

* I like Tony Snell. He provides a solid defender who can make open shots.

* Jeremy Lamb's value is low. Maybe. But I don't know how his ego would take it.

* Ben McLemore would be a good option.

* Rodney Hood?

* McGruder is a scrapper. An energy hustle guy. Like Javonte Green.

* Bembry is good end of bench guy. I like him.

Mmm, pity, Damion Lee signed for PHO already. He would have been good.

Austin Rivers as a smaller guard option.



I'd try to get 1-2 of those guys.

I'd love Dieng as a backup center. Or D-Howard. Then Kaminsky.



I'm not looking for diamonds in the rough. Just guys who have been around the block and know what to do.

Guys who can step up and give you 5-10 minutes if desperate and do a simple job. Or at least do a job well enough / not too badly so that it doesn't kill you.

Udoka was terrified of putting any of those 10-15 guys on the bench last year in a playoff game. I want him to have a couple of guys there he can look at and see "yeah that is an NBA guy" "he ain't great but he ain't a trainwreck either, I can put him out there if things are bad enough". 

[Who]

I don't have a lot of trust in Melo. He had a good year numbers wise for LAL but a good chunk of that was from LAL playing all-offense lineups with LeBron at the five which juiced everyone's offensive numbers. I just don't trust those shooting numbers from Melo.

I look at Melo and what he did in Portland as more reflective of what he can do in a more standard team setup and I am not impressed by that. His scoring efficiency was below average and his D was way below average. Overall a large net negative who was only getting PT based on his reputation & past successes.

I rate him as a non-NBA caliber player for that reason. Essentially I would be betting against him rather than for him in terms of where his offensive game truly is.

[liam]

I don't have a lot of trust in Melo. He had a good year numbers wise for LAL but a good chunk of that was from LAL playing all-offense lineups with LeBron at the five which juiced everyone's offensive numbers. I just don't trust those shooting numbers from Melo.

I look at Melo and what he did in Portland as more reflective of what he can do in a more standard team setup and I am not impressed by that. His scoring efficiency was below average and his D was way below average. Overall a large net negative who was only getting PT based on his reputation & past successes.

I rate him as a non-NBA caliber player for that reason. Essentially I would be betting against him rather than for him in terms of where his offensive game truly is.

He shot 40% and 39% from 3 in Portland.

[Who]

I don't have a lot of trust in Melo. He had a good year numbers wise for LAL but a good chunk of that was from LAL playing all-offense lineups with LeBron at the five which juiced everyone's offensive numbers. I just don't trust those shooting numbers from Melo.

I look at Melo and what he did in Portland as more reflective of what he can do in a more standard team setup and I am not impressed by that. His scoring efficiency was below average and his D was way below average. Overall a large net negative who was only getting PT based on his reputation & past successes.

I rate him as a non-NBA caliber player for that reason. Essentially I would be betting against him rather than for him in terms of where his offensive game truly is.

He shot 40% and 39% from 3 in Portland.

Yes, but his overall scoring efficiency was a lot lower. It was 52.5% his first year in POR, 54.7% his 2nd year and up to 57.9% in LAL.

That first year was 4% below league average, the second year 2.5% below and the year in LA 1.3% above league average.



Now I could be wrong. He could reproduce what he did in LAL. I am just not betting on that happening. I am scared off of what I saw him do in POR which was just pump up empty stats and hurt his team. Its not like LAL was winning either. If I am betting on Melo, I am betting against him reproducing that form in LAL.

[Roy H.]

I'm not looking for diamonds in the rough. Just guys who have been around the block and know what to do.

Guys who can step up and give you 5-10 minutes if desperate and do a simple job. Or at least do a job well enough / not too badly so that it doesn't kill you.

Udoka was terrified of putting any of those 10-15 guys on the bench last year in a playoff game. I want him to have a couple of guys there he can look at and see "yeah that is an NBA guy" "he ain't great but he ain't a trainwreck either, I can put him out there if things are bad enough".

I get it.  And truth be told, I’ll be quite happy if Brad fills out the roster with vets, rather than never-will-bes.

But, Edwards is a guy I’d make an exception for.  He showed decent promise forced into a part-time starter role, and he’s got ideal size.

[liam]

I'm not looking for diamonds in the rough. Just guys who have been around the block and know what to do.

Guys who can step up and give you 5-10 minutes if desperate and do a simple job. Or at least do a job well enough / not too badly so that it doesn't kill you.

Udoka was terrified of putting any of those 10-15 guys on the bench last year in a playoff game. I want him to have a couple of guys there he can look at and see "yeah that is an NBA guy" "he ain't great but he ain't a trainwreck either, I can put him out there if things are bad enough".

I get it.  And truth be told, I’ll be quite happy if Brad fills out the roster with vets, rather than never-will-bes.

But, Edwards is a guy I’d make an exception for.  He showed decent promise forced into a part-time starter role, and he’s got ideal size.

I'd grab Edwards in a minute. He averaged 20 minutes a game last year in 48 games and he's 21.

[liam]

Isaiah Roby was released by Thunder. I liked Roby coming out in the draft for his physical profile. I take him as the 14th man in an instant. Shot 44% from three last year and averaged 10 points a game. He brings some of the same stuff I like about Kessler Edwards. Roby is 24 and Edwards is only 21. Roby might be the more NBA ready of the two. I think that Edwards might be the better defender of the two but either one would have to step up their D if they want to be part of this Celtics squad.

[gouki88]

If this guy is so good, why didn't BKN use him in the playoffs against us?

They were desperate for quality wing players with the losses due to injury of Ben Simmons and Joe Harris. They were fielding tiny backcourts that were getting abused by our bigger perimeter players.

Maybe the answer is straight forward = this guy sucks. They didn't play him because he wasn't good enough to help them. If he wasn't good enough to help them as desperate as they were last season, why in the world would he be good enough to help us next season?

He's a raw 21-year-old player. He'd be a 13th or 14th guy that could play in a pinch. Played 20 minutes a game last year in limited games for the Nets. 35% from 3. 5.9 pts and 3.6 rbs

We need guys we can trust in a playoff game if needed.

Not raw developmental prospects. We have Hauser for that.

We need a wing that is happy as a 3rd stringer who won't wet the bed if called upon in a playoff series.

How many players are out there that would sign for the minimum, would accept the 12th / 13th man role, and can play meaningful minutes in the playoffs?

It’s an exceedingly short list.

Carmelo Anthony?

I rather have Edwards but Melo you know what you're getting... Plus then you have Melo and Gallo...

Carmelo might have fit on last year’s team.  For this year, he’d be duplicative.  Too many finishers on the bench.

I think Who mentioned Tony Snell.  Good veteran presence, solid defender.  He doesn’t offer much offensive production though.

Another perfect FT shooter. Get him

[liam]

Surely someone will pick up Edwards.

[hwangjini_1]

If this guy is so good, why didn't BKN use him in the playoffs against us?

They were desperate for quality wing players with the losses due to injury of Ben Simmons and Joe Harris. They were fielding tiny backcourts that were getting abused by our bigger perimeter players.

Maybe the answer is straight forward = this guy sucks. They didn't play him because he wasn't good enough to help them. If he wasn't good enough to help them as desperate as they were last season, why in the world would he be good enough to help us next season?

He's a raw 21-year-old player. He'd be a 13th or 14th guy that could play in a pinch. Played 20 minutes a game last year in limited games for the Nets. 35% from 3. 5.9 pts and 3.6 rbs

We need guys we can trust in a playoff game if needed.

Not raw developmental prospects. We have Hauser for that.

We need a wing that is happy as a 3rd stringer who won't wet the bed if called upon in a playoff series.

i believe posters on this thread are discussing the merits of edwards as the 13th or 14th player, that is, the 8th or 9th guy off the bench.

if the celtics really need playoff help from their 13th player, they are already in dire straits.*

for me, from the 13th player on it is about development. edwards fits that role.

*speaking of which, this is my favorite version. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFiyZB5ucgo

[Vermont Green]

Edwards is probably better than Malik Fitts so he can replace him on the roster.

It is strange how this went down.  BKN extended a QO of around $1.8M if I understand correctly but then "rescinded" it.  The Nets can still sign him.  Seems like a nice young player for the end of the bench.  A Pepperdine grad, like Dennis Johnson.

[liam]

If this guy is so good, why didn't BKN use him in the playoffs against us?

They were desperate for quality wing players with the losses due to injury of Ben Simmons and Joe Harris. They were fielding tiny backcourts that were getting abused by our bigger perimeter players.

Maybe the answer is straight forward = this guy sucks. They didn't play him because he wasn't good enough to help them. If he wasn't good enough to help them as desperate as they were last season, why in the world would he be good enough to help us next season?

He's a raw 21-year-old player. He'd be a 13th or 14th guy that could play in a pinch. Played 20 minutes a game last year in limited games for the Nets. 35% from 3. 5.9 pts and 3.6 rbs

We need guys we can trust in a playoff game if needed.

Not raw developmental prospects. We have Hauser for that.

We need a wing that is happy as a 3rd stringer who won't wet the bed if called upon in a playoff series.

i believe posters on this thread are discussing the merits of edwards as the 13th or 14th player, that is, the 8th or 9th guy off the bench.

if the celtics really need playoff help from their 13th player, they are already in dire straits.*

for me, from the 13th player on it is about development. edwards fits that role.

*speaking of which, this is my favorite version. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFiyZB5ucgo

Our bench gave us literally nothing in game 6. If we would've had a deeper bench someone might've been brought in to try something different. Edwards is developmental at still only 21 but could play in a pinch.