What would the Grizzlies want for Anderson

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So, if that is something they would consider, it seems crazy to me not to try to trade Smart and one of those two (and even a future pick) for a more foundational pick in this draft, such as Mitchell or Barnes, and then not sign Fournier unless he takes a one year deal. Resigning Smart or Fournier sounds dangerous to me. Smart is getting older, and this all falls apart if he signs then gets hurt.

I'll just say that letting Fournier walk and trading Smart and other pieces for a rookie who may or may not be good sets the stage for Jaylen to consider asking out next summer if you don't land a star, because that "two years left on the contract" summer starts the clock on when a guy can start forcing a trade.

First off, asking out two years early isn't likely for Jaylen, and second, there is a risk to any path you choose. You pick the one with the best chance of success. The safest path just doesn't usually cut it. Smart just isn't good enough to start, unless the C's get another very very good starter. Fournier is a solid player, but that won't get Tatum and Brown to the finals.

[bogg]

First off, asking out two years early isn't likely for Jaylen

Are we absolutely sure that that's the case? Two of the last three years have been fairly miserable and Tatum/Brown caught flak in local media all last year for supposed poor leadership of the team. Stripping the roster down to rookie-scale players is likely to extend those issues for another year and signal to the Jays that the team is content with another first-round exit. You're wagering a lot on Beal falling out of the sky, and if he gets dealt to a contender in February it's a borderline disaster.
 
Not providing the Jays much/any support just seems like it's daring them to be discontent.

. The safest path just doesn't usually cut it. Smart just isn't good enough to start, unless the C's get another very very good starter. Fournier is a solid player, but that won't get Tatum and Brown to the finals.

Honestly, a healthy Boston team with one or two of the right veteran additions via TT trade and an exception signing or trade probably beats either of the teams in the ECF this year. I have a very hard time imagining Payton Pritchard and Aaron Nesmith backed up by Yam Madar and Romeo as a championship backcourt next season.

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First off, asking out two years early isn't likely for Jaylen

Are we absolutely sure that that's the case? Two of the last three years have been fairly miserable and Tatum/Brown caught flak in local media all last year for supposed poor leadership of the team. Stripping the roster down to rookie-scale players is likely to extend those issues for another year and signal to the Jays that the team is content with another first-round exit. You're wagering a lot on Beal falling out of the sky, and if he gets dealt to a contender in February it's a borderline disaster.
 
Not providing the Jays much/any support just seems like it's daring them to be discontent.

. The safest path just doesn't usually cut it. Smart just isn't good enough to start, unless the C's get another very very good starter. Fournier is a solid player, but that won't get Tatum and Brown to the finals.

Honestly, a healthy Boston team with one or two of the right veteran additions via TT trade and an exception signing or trade probably beats either of the teams in the ECF this year. I have a very hard time imagining Payton Pritchard and Aaron Nesmith backed up by Yam Madar and Romeo as a championship backcourt next season.

Can you see us trading Smart, Langford, and a 1st for a pick if necessary, to get Davion Mitchell?

We go through next year starting Mitchell, and not resigning Fournier. Nesmith starts instead. Then, in 2022 we would be in position to sign a free agent, hopefully Beal.

That's not a bad way to go.

[Celtics4ever]

Can you see us trading Smart, Langford, and a 1st for a pick if necessary, to get Davion Mitchell?

We go through next year starting Mitchell, and not resigning Fournier. Nesmith starts instead. Then, in 2022 we would be in position to sign a free agent, hopefully Beal.

Mitchell came in really undersized at the draft.  His measurements were like 6 foot without shoes.

A second rounder to look up  is Jericho Sims

I think we are interested in getting Anderson on the cheap folks.  The rumor was put out there to get a feel for the cost.

[td450]

Can you see us trading Smart, Langford, and a 1st for a pick if necessary, to get Davion Mitchell?

We go through next year starting Mitchell, and not resigning Fournier. Nesmith starts instead. Then, in 2022 we would be in position to sign a free agent, hopefully Beal.

Mitchell came in really undersized at the draft.  His measurements were like 6 foot without shoes.

A second rounder to look up  is Jericho Sims

I think we are interested in getting Anderson on the cheap folks.  The rumor was put out there to get a feel for the cost.

Not worried about Mitchell's height. He's athletic and very strong, and knows how to create separation. A lot of shorter point guards are fine in the NBA if they are physical and have those types of skills. He's a really good defender too.

Pretty sure he'll be better than Smart immediately.

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If the Celtics decide to keep Smart as the main PG, I think the Cs will need a much better player than Anderson at the 4. A Harrison Barnes/John Collins/ Jerami Grant/Pascal Siakam type player.

Not sure of the logistics to nab guys like that, but that's what I would try to be doing, unless the goal is to punt next season away and game plan financially for the 2022 and 2023 free agency seasons.

so for your bolded scenario, are we keeping Evan F?  If so isn't the starting lineup Smart, EF, Brown, Tatum, Horford?
wouldn't Kyle Anderson be a backup 3/4 for that scenario?

Smart, EF, Brown, Tatum, Horford
PP, Langford, Nesmith, Anderson, Timelord

[bogg]

Can you see us trading Smart, Langford, and a 1st for a pick if necessary, to get Davion Mitchell?

We go through next year starting Mitchell, and not resigning Fournier. Nesmith starts instead. Then, in 2022 we would be in position to sign a free agent, hopefully Beal.

That's not a bad way to go.

If you found a team in position to draft Mitchell who was willing to play along (I assume the target here is Golden State, or possibly New Orleans/San An if he falls) you could do that, but you're still running a point guard rotation of Pritchard and a rookie, and maybe the rookie is good or maybe he isn't. There aren't a lot of rookies ready to run a playoff team from day one though, and you don't have very much on the wing behind Tatum and Brown anymore. You'd almost have to bring back Semi at that point, and I guess you're signing another wing with the non-tax mid-level on a 1+1 and/or attaching additional draft assets to TT?

You go from being a pretty deep team to a team chock full of question marks outside of the Jays. You're also absolutely praying that Beal or, I suppose, Lavine don't get traded to a new team mid-season because you've taken yourself out of that picture with encumbered future firsts. It just seems like lighting a season on fire attempting to thread a needle. You can instead operate above the cap, have a full slate of picks to offer and a couple different ways of matching salary in a major trade, plus likely be much more competitive next year to boot.

[nickagneta]

If the Celtics decide to keep Smart as the main PG, I think the Cs will need a much better player than Anderson at the 4. A Harrison Barnes/John Collins/ Jerami Grant/Pascal Siakam type player.

Not sure of the logistics to nab guys like that, but that's what I would try to be doing, unless the goal is to punt next season away and game plan financially for the 2022 and 2023 free agency seasons.

so for your bolded scenario, are we keeping Evan F?  If so isn't the starting lineup Smart, EF, Brown, Tatum, Horford?
wouldn't Kyle Anderson be a backup 3/4 for that scenario?

Smart, EF, Brown, Tatum, Horford
PP, Langford, Nesmith, Anderson, Timelord

Maybe they can both trade for a PF if the caliber I am looking for while also signing Fournier as the 6th man. It doesn't have to be one or the other, if Stevens is clever enough to pull it off